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JugglingReferee Fri Sep 23, 2011 01:03pm

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Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 789320)
Since when do we allow coaches to decline points? :confused:

He is a former football coach. :eek:

larandtra Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:10pm

OK, I have a question about this. If Team A scores on team Bs basket after a throw in, why would team A get the ball again? If Team a scores on Team As basket there is a change of possession. On any made basket, must there not be a change of possession unless superceded by a technical foul? From my perspective, Why should team A get the benefit ofball possession when they just had possession and there was a made basket? I understand the whole "not penalizing team A, but, they also should not get the benefit of an additional possession. Just trying to get clarification on this.

APG Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:23pm

NFHS

Rule 7, Section 5

ART. 7 . . . A throw-in anywhere along the end line after a goal or an awarded goal for basket interference or goaltending by a defensive player, as in 9-12 Penalty 1, the team not credited with the score shall make a throw-in from the end of the court where the goal was made and from any point outside the end line

If Team A puts the ball in Team B's basket, Team B is credited the points and since Team A wasn't credited with a score, they are awarded a throw-in. And really, Team B isn't going to feel cheated out of a possession since they got two points from the other team.

Raymond Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:47pm

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Originally Posted by larandtra (Post 812908)
OK, I have a question about this. If Team A scores on team Bs basket after a throw in, why would team A get the ball again? If Team a scores on Team As basket there is a change of possession. On any made basket, must there not be a change of possession unless superceded by a technical foul? From my perspective, Why should team A get the benefit ofball possession when they just had possession and there was a made basket? I understand the whole "not penalizing team A, but, they also should not get the benefit of an additional possession. Just trying to get clarification on this.

Who gets the ball after a made basket, the team who is awarded 2 points or the team who didn't get awarded 2 points?

buffett Fri Jan 13, 2012 03:30pm

I had a girl's fresh/soph game where the visiting team put the ball in the home team's basket 2 times. THE SECOND ONE WAS THE FOLLOWING PLAY AFTER THE FIRST SCORE! I was in the C position for these plays. After the first basket I blew my whistle, counted the basket for the home team(for the table), and pointed my arm as well as verbalized the direction the visitors should be going. After the second basket, the visiting coach, called a timeout to straight her team out. P.S: The visitors lost the game by 4 points!

Freddy Fri Jan 13, 2012 04:18pm

Invitation to "Go the Wrong Way"
 
Have a local school which, among it's bag-o-tricks plays, sends all their players to the wrong end of the court after a time-out so that when their throw-in takes place, all they have to do is hit their open player streaking with the ball toward the vacant end of the court for an easy two points. In spite of our point toward the proper direction upon administering the throw-in, the visiting teams get caught unawares by it about 3/4 of the time.
Same team, when needing to stall, does the old "line five players up shoulder-to-shoulder and pass the ball to each other over the OOB area to draw a foul" (for which 9.10.1D was included), which works about 3/4 of the time also, mostly because coaches don't know the casebook on that one.
Oh, it's a girls' JV team.

rockyroad Fri Jan 13, 2012 04:45pm

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Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 789320)
Since when do we allow coaches to decline points? :confused:

Who is this "we" you are referring to?? :rolleyes:

Kelvin green Sat Jan 14, 2012 01:52pm

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Originally Posted by larandtra (Post 812908)
OK, I have a question about this. If Team A scores on team Bs basket after a throw in, why would team A get the ball again? If Team a scores on Team As basket there is a change of possession. On any made basket, must there not be a change of possession unless superceded by a technical foul? From my perspective, Why should team A get the benefit ofball possession when they just had possession and there was a made basket? I understand the whole "not penalizing team A, but, they also should not get the benefit of an additional possession. Just trying to get clarification on this.

not ot be sarcastic but (even if rule did not say it) why would you let B score and then let B have the ball? B just scored, plain and simple forget who scored it, did I mention B just scored? Did mention B just made a baske?

buckrog64 Sat Jan 14, 2012 08:20pm

Freddy, this was going on in Iowa and the associations said that if the offense set up like this, we were supposed to pointedly correct the teams and basically not start until the defense was at the correct end of the floor. Before that directive came out, when I saw the play, it worked almost everytime. Once the directive came out, that play went away.

eyezen Sat Jan 14, 2012 09:12pm

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Originally Posted by buckrog64 (Post 813403)
Freddy, this was going on in Iowa and the associations said that if the offense set up like this, we were supposed to pointedly correct the teams and basically not start until the defense was at the correct end of the floor. Before that directive came out, when I saw the play, it worked almost everytime. Once the directive came out, that play went away.

Seriously? Point the right direction and play ball.

Adam Sat Jan 14, 2012 09:19pm

MS girls game this week. White ball under their basket. Red heads down to set up defense at the other end. White is thrown off and starts dribbling that way until I make one of the few backcourt calls from lead.


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