Made a layup at wrong basket
 

Had my first official games of the season last night. Had the old made-a-layup-in-the-wrong-basket come up.

Team A inbounds from the endline furthest from their basket. A2 catches the inbounds pass and immediately shoots and makes a layup...in the wrong basket.

We stopped play, counted the two points for B, then set up for a throw in by Team A. Only problem was, I couldn't remember whether or not it's a spot throw in.

So which is it?

Newer official here.
 

Without the help of my rulebook

I would assume this to be a running the endline situation. Reason I say that is, it would penalize Team A even more than just awarding Team B 2 points, it would now cost them the ability to run the endline. That seems to me to be too much of a penalty for being ignorant on the part of Team A.

Yes, the ensuing throw-in is anywhere along the endline. 7-5-7

Look at it this way, it is still an awarded (made) basket. So the rules apply the same as with other situations on a made basket.

Peace

It is still a goal even if it was not a try.

It would be a d**k of a rule to not let A run the end line after a mess up like that.

Hate to be a rules guy but .......
 

for definition purposes only, this play is not considered a try for goal. I say that because if that player was fouled ther would be no free throws unless team A was in the bonus....... as it can't be a shooting foul.

OK - off the sopabox!!!!!!!

Already mentioned

For the newer officials, the reason it's not a try is that a try is defined as an attempt to throw the ball into a team's own goal. So throwing the ball into the opponent's goal still counts as two points (since a live ball passed through the basket), but is not a try.

So if a common foul occurs during the throw (at the opponent's goal), continuous motion does not apply and no free throws are awarded.

More than that, not only does the pre-release movement not get to finish, but the post-release ball in flight becomes immediately dead at the time of the foul.

Crap. I knew I forgot something. :) Good catch, Nevada.

I've seen this happen twice in games I've worked. (One opposing coach accepted the points; the other declined.) Both times, the kids were too embarrassed to even consider running the line.

What?

Can they do that, by rule?

Since when do we allow coaches to decline points? :confused:

He is a former football coach. :eek:

OK, I have a question about this. If Team A scores on team Bs basket after a throw in, why would team A get the ball again? If Team a scores on Team As basket there is a change of possession. On any made basket, must there not be a change of possession unless superceded by a technical foul? From my perspective, Why should team A get the benefit ofball possession when they just had possession and there was a made basket? I understand the whole "not penalizing team A, but, they also should not get the benefit of an additional possession. Just trying to get clarification on this.

NFHS

Rule 7, Section 5

ART. 7 . . . A throw-in anywhere along the end line after a goal or an awarded goal for basket interference or goaltending by a defensive player, as in 9-12 Penalty 1, the team not credited with the score shall make a throw-in from the end of the court where the goal was made and from any point outside the end line

If Team A puts the ball in Team B's basket, Team B is credited the points and since Team A wasn't credited with a score, they are awarded a throw-in. And really, Team B isn't going to feel cheated out of a possession since they got two points from the other team.

Who gets the ball after a made basket, the team who is awarded 2 points or the team who didn't get awarded 2 points?

I had a girl's fresh/soph game where the visiting team put the ball in the home team's basket 2 times. THE SECOND ONE WAS THE FOLLOWING PLAY AFTER THE FIRST SCORE! I was in the C position for these plays. After the first basket I blew my whistle, counted the basket for the home team(for the table), and pointed my arm as well as verbalized the direction the visitors should be going. After the second basket, the visiting coach, called a timeout to straight her team out. P.S: The visitors lost the game by 4 points!

Invitation to "Go the Wrong Way"
 

Have a local school which, among it's bag-o-tricks plays, sends all their players to the wrong end of the court after a time-out so that when their throw-in takes place, all they have to do is hit their open player streaking with the ball toward the vacant end of the court for an easy two points. In spite of our point toward the proper direction upon administering the throw-in, the visiting teams get caught unawares by it about 3/4 of the time.
Same team, when needing to stall, does the old "line five players up shoulder-to-shoulder and pass the ball to each other over the OOB area to draw a foul" (for which 9.10.1D was included), which works about 3/4 of the time also, mostly because coaches don't know the casebook on that one.
Oh, it's a girls' JV team.

Who is this "we" you are referring to?? :rolleyes:

not ot be sarcastic but (even if rule did not say it) why would you let B score and then let B have the ball? B just scored, plain and simple forget who scored it, did I mention B just scored? Did mention B just made a baske?

Freddy, this was going on in Iowa and the associations said that if the offense set up like this, we were supposed to pointedly correct the teams and basically not start until the defense was at the correct end of the floor. Before that directive came out, when I saw the play, it worked almost everytime. Once the directive came out, that play went away.

Seriously? Point the right direction and play ball.

MS girls game this week. White ball under their basket. Red heads down to set up defense at the other end. White is thrown off and starts dribbling that way until I make one of the few backcourt calls from lead.