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Jay R Sun Mar 30, 2003 09:24pm
I had taped the game, so I went and looked at it.

A Kentucky pass (alley oop) hit the rim and bounced towards the centre line. A KU player tried to save it in the front court but stepped on the centre line. His save (weak pass) landed in the back court. Therefore, the official could have called a backcourt violation for either infractions. He did not. A Syracuse player then retrieved the ball and play continued from there. It was impossible to see if the shot clock was reset when it hit the rim. As mentioned here, it should not have reset.

BktBallRef Sun Mar 30, 2003 10:57pm
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Originally posted by Jay R
A Kentucky pass (alley oop) hit the rim and bounced towards the centre line. A KU player tried to save it in the front court but stepped on the centre line. His save (weak pass) landed in the back court. Therefore, the official could have called a backcourt violation for either infractions.
Tossing the ball into the BC would not be a violation, unless he or a teammate then touched it there.

Mark Padgett Mon Mar 31, 2003 12:47am
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Originally posted by Jay R
I had taped the game, so I went and looked at it.

A Kentucky pass (alley oop) hit the rim and bounced towards the centre line. A KU player tried to save it in the front court but stepped on the centre line. His save (weak pass) landed in the back court. Therefore, the official could have called a backcourt violation for either infractions.
Please name the two infractions.

Jay R Mon Mar 31, 2003 12:54pm
I stand corrected. Stepping on the line is a backcourt violation. But throwing it into the BC is not, I had not thought it through.

BTW, I did not want to criticize the official who did not make the BC call. I looked at it in slo-mo to determine that he stepped on the line to save the ball.

Camron Rust Mon Mar 31, 2003 02:10pm
Quote:
Originally posted by Jay R
I had taped the game, so I went and looked at it.

A Kentucky pass (alley oop) hit the rim and bounced towards the centre line. A KU player tried to save it in the front court but stepped on the centre line. His save (weak pass) landed in the back court. Therefore, the official could have called a backcourt violation for either infractions. He did not. A Syracuse player then retrieved the ball and play continued from there. It was impossible to see if the shot clock was reset when it hit the rim. As mentioned here, it should not have reset.
What I want to know is how players from 4 teams ended up on the court...;)

1. We've got a pass by a Kentucky player.

2. Kentucky played Marquette.

3. Then a Kansas (KU) player tries to save the ball before it goes into the backcourt.

4. Then from out of nowhere, a Syracuse player recovers the ball.

How did the refs miss this?

Isn't is a technical foul to have 4 teams on the court. If not, who would get the ball after a violation? ;)

Jay R Mon Mar 31, 2003 04:03pm
I'm getting massacred here. Sorry, not Syracuse but Marquette.

What is the abbreviation for Kentucky? UK?

Camron Rust Mon Mar 31, 2003 08:24pm
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Originally posted by Jay R
I'm getting massacred here. Sorry, not Syracuse but Marquette.

What is the abbreviation for Kentucky? UK?
I'm just having a little fun. ;)

I knew what you meant. I happen to be a Kentucky fan. Having a little fun since my team got soundly beaten. (And no, I'm not a bandwagon fan....born there...been a fan for most of my life).

Yes, University of Kentucky is UK while University of Kansas is KU. Guess they're dyslexic in Kansas.


[Edited by Camron Rust on Mar 31st, 2003 at 07:30 PM]

ChuckElias Mon Mar 31, 2003 08:26pm
Dyslexics of the world, untie!

Nevadaref Tue Apr 01, 2003 02:15am
Quote:
Originally posted by Jay R
I had taped the game, so I went and looked at it.

A Kentucky pass (alley oop) hit the rim and bounced towards the centre line. A KU player tried to save it in the front court but stepped on the centre line. His save (weak pass) landed in the back court. Therefore, the official could have called a backcourt violation for either infractions. He did not. A Syracuse player then retrieved the ball and play continued from there. It was impossible to see if the shot clock was reset when it hit the rim. As mentioned here, it should not have reset.
Team typos aside, thank you for double checking. You have validated my starting this whole thread. Hopefully, there were a few people that learned that a backcourt violation can happen after the ball bounces off the rim!

PS The NCAA officials seem to be struggling with backcourt. Missed this one and called it erroneously in the TX/MS game.

dblref Tue Apr 01, 2003 07:21am
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Originally posted by ChuckElias
Dyslexics of the world, untie!
Is this also dyslexic: untie vs unite? No, wait that's Bosux language,:D


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