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Nevadaref Fri Mar 28, 2003 05:50am

Quote:

Originally posted by DrakeM
Let me rephrase that.
The offended team scored 4 points because of a play that resulted from possession due to the pre-game dunk.
(that's much clearer right?):rolleyes:;)

That I can happily agree with. Please see my edit to my above post.

DrakeM Fri Mar 28, 2003 06:35am

Ever heard of playing defense? They pay those guys on the defensive side of the ball a lot of money too. So make a defensive play and stop them from scoring

I agree. However, there is constant talk about changing the NF technical foul rule to reflect the NCAA rule,(NBA as well, but only 1 shot instead of two) where play is resumed at POI, because "the penalty is too severe if we award two FT's plus posession." Even the NCAA resumes play with a Center jump ball after a pre-game dunk! Change the NF rule!

ReadyToRef Fri Mar 28, 2003 08:20am

Why should we change a rule that every player, coach, and even most fans totally understand? They know the penalty before they dunk, yet they choose to dunk, and thus, choose the penalty. If they don't want the penalty, then they shouldn't dunk.

DrakeM Fri Mar 28, 2003 08:59am

I agree with the Tech, just not doing away with the opening Jump. I guarantee most coaches, players and DEFINTELY fans, DON'T know they lose the right to jump as well.

Jurassic Referee Fri Mar 28, 2003 09:17am

Quote:

Originally posted by DrakeM

I agree. However, there is constant talk about changing the NF technical foul rule to reflect the NCAA rule,(NBA as well, but only 1 shot instead of two) where play is resumed at POI, because "the penalty is too severe if we award two FT's plus posession." Even the NCAA resumes play with a Center jump ball after a pre-game dunk! Change the NF rule!

You think the penalty is too severe? The rule was changed from 1 shot to 2 shots pus possession because the NFHS was concerned about unsporting behaviour,and they thought that an increased penalty would help stop it.Well,unsporting behaviour has been a POE for the last I-don't-know-how-many-years,including this past year-so the FED is obviously still concerned about it. It doesn't make much sense to lessen the penalty,if the FED is getting feedback that unsporting behaviour is still a general problem.The NCAA game and the FED game are two different worlds completely,anyway.

ChuckElias Fri Mar 28, 2003 09:36am

As I've stated before, I wouldn't mind at all if the Fed adopted the POI procedure for technical fouls. Having said that, the pregame dunk scenario is one where giving shots and possession has very very little impact on the game.

Giving the offended team the ball for a throw-in is no different from the offended team winning the tap; they get the ball and the other team gets the arrow. The same thing happens when you give them the ball for the throw-in after the technical free throws; they get the ball and the other team gets the arrow. Big deal.

In fact, there's a slight advantage for the team that got the T, b/c at least they get to set up the defensive scheme they want to use, instead of defending in transition off the tap.

Just my 2 cents.

Chuck


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