Can a player jump stop from a stationary position?

[MiamiWadeCounty]

RULE 4 / DEFINITIONS

Section 70. Traveling

Art. 2. A player who catches the ball with both feet on the playing court may
pivot, using either foot. When one foot is lifted, the other is the pivot foot.

Art. 3. A player who catches the ball while moving or dribbling may stop and
establish a pivot foot as follows:

b. When one foot is on the playing court:
1. That foot shall be the pivot foot when the other foot touches in a
step;
2. The player may jump off that foot and simultaneously land on both;
neither foot can then be the pivot foot.

Suppose A1 is stationary, lifts up his right foot, ends his dribble and never returns foot to the floor. Can A1 perform a jump stop right after?

[APG]

Yes...

I'm guessing you're hung up on the player doing this while not moving. Specifically the rule doesn't say a player has to be moving...but also mentions a player who catches the ball while dribbling...which A1 did in your scenario.

[Scrapper1]

Wow, I came into this post ready to have guns blazing to disagree with APG. I have always interpreted 4-70-3 to apply specifically to a player who is moving (meaning, "running") when he/she catches the ball. But it actually says "moving or dribbling".

So you could be standing still, except that you're dribbling; lift one foot off the floor; catch the ball ending your dribble; then jump and land on two feet?

I find it really hard to believe that's the intent of this rule, even though it does seem to allow it on a strict reading.

[Camron Rust]

I've always ruled it the same as APG describes it.

Plus, it is pretty difficult to not be "moving" if you're standing on one foot.

I'm sure the original intent was to allow a player to come to a stop while in fast motion, but the literal application of the rule allows a bit more.

[JRutledge]

I also think this is hard to execute as well based on what I am reading. I do not think this is much of an issue and really one of these things that if you understand the basic rules you should be fine.

Peace

[APG]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I also think this is hard to execute as well based on what I am reading. I do not think this is much of an issue and really one of these things that if you understand the basic rules you should be fine.

Peace

I dunno how hard it would be to actually execute...but it's not a realistic play. This play is similar to a play we discussed about a couple of months back where everyone agreed on the above interpretation except for Jurassic.

[Adam]

Occasionally I see this with a three point shooter. Catch, dribble, jump stop (sometimes backwards), shot.

[BktBallRef]

If you're not moving, you've already stopped.

[APG]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

If you're not moving, you've already stopped.

So are you saying this would be illegal?

[BktBallRef]

Nope. I'm saying if you're not moving, you've already stopped.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Nope. I'm saying if you're not moving, you've already stopped.

When is movement complete? I tend to lean towards the thinking that standing on one foot is not a stable ending position.....the movement is not complete. It may be very, very slow, but not yet complete.

[BktBallRef]

I'm just saying it maybe legal by rule but calling it a "jump stop" is probably not the most accurate way to describe it.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by MiamiWadeCounty

RULE 4 / DEFINITIONS

Section 70. Traveling

Art. 2. A player who catches the ball with both feet on the playing court may
pivot, using either foot. When one foot is lifted, the other is the pivot foot.

Art. 3. A player who catches the ball while moving or dribbling may stop and
establish a pivot foot as follows:

b. When one foot is on the playing court:
1. That foot shall be the pivot foot when the other foot touches in a
step;
2. The player may jump off that foot and simultaneously land on both;
neither foot can then be the pivot foot.

Suppose A1 is stationary, lifts up his right foot, ends his dribble and never returns foot to the floor. Can A1 perform a jump stop right after?

The Situation described above is traveling.

I will return Sunday with a detailed defense of my position. I have to leave to get the concession stand ready for Start H.S.'s football game tonight and tomorrow the family and I go to Youngstown, Ohio, to watch they YSU Penguins take on Valapariso Univ.

Everybody have a nice weekend.

MTD, Sr.

[APG]

I'd sure like to read your defense in making this legal play a travel....

[Adam]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

I'd sure like to read your defense in making this legal play a travel....

Dude, that's like asking for homework.