Substition?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Clark Kent

Yes, I'm aware of that fact, but I want to know why a sub who following a timeout has failed to report to the table prior to the warning horn allowed to "legally" become a "player" when a free throw is to follow and not in other situations?

In both situations, they must wait until the "next opportunity to substitute."

That's (generally) after the ball becomes live, and then dead with the clock stopped.

[Clark Kent]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

In both situations, they must wait until the "next opportunity to substitute."

Where are you referencing that quoted part of "next opportunity to substitute"?

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

That's (generally) after the ball becomes live, and then dead with the clock stopped.

Ok....I can see that. Because the ball becomes live when at the disposal of the free throw shooter (6-1-2b) and then dead when the shot is made (or missed as in rule 6-7-2 a & b) where as it is live when at the disposal of the inbounder (6-1-2b) but it doesn't become dead until meets one of the requirements in 6-7.

Thank you

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Clark Kent

Where are you referencing that quoted part of "next opportunity to substitute"?

I don't have my books here, but there's some statement in 3-3 to the effect that "other than as restricted subs may enter at any time the ball is dead and the clock is stopped."

Ok....I can see that. Because the ball becomes live when at the disposal of the free throw shooter (6.1.2b) and then dead when the shot is made (or missed as in rule 6.7.2 a & b) where as it is live when at the disposal of the inbounder (6.1.2b) but it never becomes dead.

Thank you

Right, and if there was a throw-in violation, or a foul, or ... causing the ball to become dead before the thorw-in was complete, you'd allow the sub.

[Clark Kent]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

I don't have my books here, but there's some statement in 3-3 to the effect that "other than as restricted subs may enter at any time the ball is dead and the clock is stopped."





Right, and if there was a throw-in violation, or a foul, or ... causing the ball to become dead before the thorw-in was complete, you'd allow the sub.

Thank you! I appreciate the help!

[tref]

Originally Posted by clark kent

where are you referencing that quoted part of "next opportunity to substitute"?

3-4

[Clark Kent]

Originally Posted by tref

3-4

3-3-4?

That is a different situation.

"A player who has been replaced, or directed to leave the game shall not re-enter before the next opportunity to substitute after the clock has been started properly following his/her replacement."

If that were the case then the clock would have a bearing on if subs were permitted in the game following a time-out.

[tref]

I was just answering your question since Bob didn't have his book.

Originally Posted by Clark Kent

Where are you referencing that quoted part of "next opportunity to substitute"?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Clark Kent

Where are you referencing that quoted part of "next opportunity to substitute"?



Ok....I can see that. Because the ball becomes live when at the disposal of the free throw shooter (6-1-2b) and then dead when the shot is made (or missed as in rule 6-7-2 a & b) where as it is live when at the disposal of the inbounder (6-1-2b) but it doesn't become dead until meets one of the requirements in 6-7.

Thank you

Look at the note for 3-3-1a. Following this particular TO, play begins with the first free throw, thus the requirement of this note is met.

[BktBallRef]

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