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Larks Thu Mar 20, 2003 03:48pm

UC Radio announcer Chuck Machock got ejected right after Coach Huggins did.

A little paperwork in that crew's future?

Interesting Game.

Dan_ref Thu Mar 20, 2003 03:51pm

Wait wait wait. You will need a heckuvalot more detail than that!

rockyroad Thu Mar 20, 2003 04:03pm

I saw Huggins get tossed - picked up two T's...he was very angry about the disparity in foul counts and foul shots...Turiauf (from Gonzaga) shot more free throws by himself (22 I think) than Cinci did as a team...but Gonzaga was pounding it inside and Cinci was shooting lots of 3's...did not see the radio guy get kicked - must have happened during a commercial... wish I had seen that!

Larks Thu Mar 20, 2003 04:06pm

SALT LAKE CITY - Cincinnati coach Bob Huggins was kicked out in the second half of the Bearcats' NCAA tournament opener against Gonzaga after drawing two technicals on a disputed call Thursday. The Bearcats went on to lose the game, 74-69.

Upset with a traveling call on Cincinnati's Jason Maxiell early in the second half, the volatile coach jumped in the air and landed with a two-footed stomp. That quickly got a technical from lead official Mike Kitts.

Huggins, who had a major heart attack in September, continued the tirade and after another minute was called for the second technical by Kitts, who pointed to the locker room tunnel after blowing the whistle.

So....

Apparently during the time out after or possibly during the 4 free throws, Machock was giving the crew or Kitts hell and he was tossed. Dan Hoard who does the play by play finished the radio broadcast on his own.


Dan_ref Thu Mar 20, 2003 04:12pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Larks
SALT LAKE CITY - Cincinnati coach Bob Huggins was kicked out in the second half of the Bearcats' NCAA tournament opener against Gonzaga after drawing two technicals on a disputed call Thursday. The Bearcats went on to lose the game, 74-69.

Upset with a traveling call on Cincinnati's Jason Maxiell early in the second half, the volatile coach jumped in the air and landed with a two-footed stomp. That quickly got a technical from lead official Mike Kitts.

Huggins, who had a major heart attack in September, continued the tirade and after another minute was called for the second technical by Kitts, who pointed to the locker room tunnel after blowing the whistle.

So....

Apparently during the time out after or possibly during the 4 free throws, Machock was giving the crew or Kitts hell and he was tossed. Dan Hoard who does the play by play finished the radio broadcast on his own.


I am glad Kitts recovered from that 6 men on the court thing earlier in the season. Way to go Kittsy!

ChuckElias Thu Mar 20, 2003 05:09pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Dan_ref
I am glad Kitts recovered from that 6 men on the court thing earlier in the season. Way to go Kittsy!
HEY! Would you please get out of my HEAD!!! You said the exact same thing I thought as I read the article above. Stop it! I'm serious. You're freakin' me out.

Chuck

rockyroad Thu Mar 20, 2003 05:23pm

Hey - you know those "Separated at Birth" things on the Late Show or Conan show or whichever one it was??? Maybe that's why Dan and Chuck keep doing this to each other...hmmmmm...Dan and Chuck - separated at birth???

Jurassic Referee Thu Mar 20, 2003 05:36pm

Quote:

Originally posted by rockyroad
Hey - you know those "Separated at Birth" things on the Late Show or Conan show or whichever one it was??? Maybe that's why Dan and Chuck keep doing this to each other...hmmmmm...Dan and Chuck - separated at birth???
Not unless one of 'em goes bald,grows about 2 feet and his IQ gets squared!

Not saying which one(but he is a BoSox fan). :D

[Edited by Jurassic Referee on Mar 20th, 2003 at 04:38 PM]

Larks Fri Mar 21, 2003 08:40am

More on the Tech's
 
According to Western Athletic Commissioner Karl Benson, who served as the NCAA Basketball Committee representative for this tournament site, Huggins received the first technical "for leaving the coaching box."

The second tech, Benson said, was called because "Huggins was refusing to leave the floor and was four steps onto the court. And he was continuing to question the call."

Huggins lingered on the court after he was ejected, prompting Peters and assistant coach Andy Kennedy to walk onto the court in an attempt to persuade him to leave.

Athletic director Bob Goin then escorted Huggins toward the locker room.

"That's just a reaction I have," Goin said. "If I see a little something that happens, my role as an athletic director is showing up. It sends a message. I don't have to say anything."

Goin said he didn't think the incident would damage the reputation of the university or program.

"I don't think there's anything drastically wrong," Goin said, "with a basketball coach getting two ... I mean, it's wrong and it's disappointing to me, but I don't think that has anything to do with the image or the integrity of the university because they may have been merited and they may not have been. That's a judgment call."


Larks Fri Mar 21, 2003 08:42am

More on Machock
 
SALT LAKE CITY - No one is a more impassioned defender of University of Cincinnati coach Bob Huggins than Chuck Machock.

Machock, one of Huggins' closest friends, served as a volunteer coach during Huggins' first few years at UC and was Huggins' boss when Machock was the head coach at Central Florida.

They've known each other since Huggins played at West Virginia.

As the color commentator for UC's radio broadcasts on WLW-AM (700) for the past 10 years, Machock frequently has criticized officials both on the air and off from his seat along press row.

But Machock apparently crossed a line Thursday during UC's loss to Gonzaga in the first round of the West Regional at the Huntsman Center.

After Huggins was ejected from the game by official Mike Kitts, Machock also was asked to leave for comments he made to Kitts off the air. He was escorted out of the building.

"The official came to the (scorer's) table and asked that he be removed," tournament director Steve Pyne said. "He indicated there was some vulgar language directed at him."

Pyne then walked across the court and informed Machock that he would have to leave.

"He asked why," Pyne said. "I told him why, and he obviously denied it. We brought the official back to the table to make sure that's what he wanted to do, and he said he wanted to follow through with it."

Machock did not physically resist but did protest that he hadn't used profanity and sought the support of a nearby writer to verify that, which the reporter did.

But Machock still was asked to leave. Reached later at his hotel, Machock declined to give his side of the story.

"I want to talk to (UC athletics director) Bob Goin about the whole thing before I say anything," Machock said.

Goin was clearly unhappy with Machock's behavior.

"I'm more disturbed about that, quite frankly, than I am about the coach," Goin said. "I'm going to get the facts first. There will be no rush to judgment, but there will be a judgment."

Huggins said he didn't know the details of Machock's ejection. Told that the tournament director said Machock used vulgar language, Huggins said, "I can't believe Chuck used vulgar language."

Play-by-play man Dan Hoard, who has worked with Machock for the past two years, said he heard no profanity from Machock. Two reporters seated nearby said they heard Machock direct the term "S.O.B." at the official, and one observer said he heard Machock tell Kitts he was a terrible official.

"After Huggs got his technicals," Hoard said, "Chuck removed his headphones so that he couldn't be heard on the air and began yelling at Mike Kitts. He did not use any profanity but did say things along the lines of 'That was a terrible call.'

"Mike Kitts said, 'Keep it up and you're going to be watching the game from outside, too.' Then Mike Kitts went down to the baseline and Chuck kept it up a little bit. When there was a timeout called, Mike Kitts walked over to the official scorer's table and told security to kick Chuck out of the game."

Hoard acknowledged that this isn't the first time Machock has criticized officials from his seat on press row.

Directing such barbs at officials is considered unprofessional among media representatives, who are supposed to be unbiased observers.

It was within the official's purview to ask for Machock's removal.

"If in his judgment a person is exercising unsportsmanlike behavior, the official has the authority to have him removed," said Karl Benson of the NCAA Basketball Committee.


Larks Fri Mar 21, 2003 08:48am

Even More on this Game
 
TECHNICAL DENIED: Huggins pleaded for a technical foul to be called against Gonzaga's Cory Violette near the end of the first half but was denied.

Gonzaga guard Winston Brooks threw what appeared to be a pass intended for Violette under the basket, but the ball went through the basket for a 3-pointer with 1:22 left in the half.

Violette then picked the ball up and dunked it.

"It was the judgment of the official that the Gonzaga player did not know the ball had gone in the basket," said Karl Benson, the NCAA Basketball Committee representative.

Nevadaref Sat Mar 22, 2003 03:22am

I hope that I am not the only one who is seriously disappointed that Mike Kitts is working the NCAA tournament. I believe that he should have lost the rest of his season schedule for the Georgetown-Seton Hall six men on the court screw-up. There must be some accountability for the officials too.

JRutledge Sat Mar 22, 2003 07:01am

One mistake?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Nevadaref
I hope that I am not the only one who is seriously disappointed that Mike Kitts is working the NCAA tournament. I believe that he should have lost the rest of his season schedule for the Georgetown-Seton Hall six men on the court screw-up. There must be some accountability for the officials too.
For one mistake? What about his partners. He was not the only one that messed up.

Peace

Nevadaref Sat Mar 22, 2003 07:51am

Jeff,

If I were the Big East assignor, he and his partners would be done for the season. This was not just one mistake, it was one HUGE mistake!

KentuckyBlue Sat Mar 22, 2003 09:57am

Expanded referee powers VERY useful!
 
I didn't know referees had ejection power extending off the court! All right way to go!

I've already put this principle to work in my off-court life. Yesterday I wore my shirt and whistle to my day job. Within the first hour I ejected my boss, two co-workers, a surly delivery boy and the guy from the mortgage company who phoned about this month's missed payment. (I had already ejected my wife and teenage son from breakfast at home that morning. My younger daughter made it long enough to finish her orange juice with only one T, however.)

This is gonna be swell! I'm on the way to DC to see what I can do about the mess there.

Rich Sat Mar 22, 2003 11:04am

I wonder if Nevadaref is really a basketball referee with comments like this.

Yup, let's pull Kitts' entire schedule. Better yet, let's not ever let him officiate ever again.

His crew made a mistake. It was made public and apparently all the powers-to-be were satisfied that Kitts was of the caliber to not let such a mistake happen again.

And that's all that matters.

Rich


Jurassic Referee Sat Mar 22, 2003 11:17am

Quote:

Originally posted by Rich Fronheiser

His crew made a mistake. It was made public and apparently all the powers-to-be were satisfied that Kitts was of the caliber to not let such a mistake happen again.

And that's all that matters.

Amen!

Bart Tyson Sat Mar 22, 2003 11:36am

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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Quote:

Originally posted by Rich Fronheiser

His crew made a mistake. It was made public and apparently all the powers-to-be were satisfied that Kitts was of the caliber to not let such a mistake happen again.

And that's all that matters.

Amen!

I 2nd that Amen!

BktBallRef Sat Mar 22, 2003 06:33pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Nevadaref
Jeff,

If I were the Big East assignor, he and his partners would be done for the season. This was not just one mistake, it was one HUGE mistake!

I guess that's just ONE reason why you're not the Big East assignor. Come to think of it, you're not even a Big East official for that matter, are you?

I guess every game you worked was perfect this year, eh? :rolleyes:

JRutledge Sat Mar 22, 2003 06:48pm

We should know better.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by BktBallRef

I guess that's just ONE reason why you're not the Big East assignor. Come to think of it, you're not even a Big East official for that matter, are you?

I guess every game you worked was perfect this year, eh? :rolleyes:

Tony,

I should know my place. I cannot comment on D1 Officials, I am not one and neither are you. We should just let the D1 Officials be critical of each other. Come to think of it, that is just about everyone here. http://www.stopstart.freeserve.co.uk/smilie/ignore.gif

Peace

NICK Sun Mar 23, 2003 03:44am

We are human, and we make mistakes. If we do not make mistakes, we do not learn.

Rich Sun Mar 23, 2003 11:04am

Kitts worked a second round game yesterday.

I hope we see him in New Orleans.

Rich

RefSouthAlb Sun Mar 23, 2003 12:27pm

Let thee who has committed no error cast the first stone.

Come on people. One error should not define one's whole season.

If that was the case the tournament would have to be cancelled as there would be no refs "qualified " to be there.

Mistake was made, I bet it won't happen again in any of his games.

Great ref, get off his back. I believe he handled this sitch great.

Shows that he's not afraid to pull the trigger if needed.

TriggerMN Sun Mar 23, 2003 09:45pm

Didn't Mike Kitts work the national championship last year (I believe Tony Green did also)? He must be doing something right...and if he happened to be on the baseline for the pass going in the hoop, then he must have been looking where he was supposed to be if he didn't see the ball go in the hoop.

Junker Mon Mar 24, 2003 05:37pm

I'm a couple of days late getting in on this one. I was staying with some friends that got me into officiating watching games and hanging out. We went to the Cincinnati website and found the game on their archives the next day. The announcer said something about knowing they were in trouble when the crew walked on to the floor. In the background you could faintly hear the NCAA officials telling him he was being removed for profane language. It was kind of interesting to listen to. I will say that we didn't hear any profanity, but the announcer was extrememly critical of the officials, even saying that he "told the audience at the beginning that the crew wasn't very good. We (there were 4 officials listening to it) felt that the second T on Huggins came a little quick considering the game situation.

Larks Mon Mar 24, 2003 06:07pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Junker
We (there were 4 officials listening to it) felt that the second T on Huggins came a little quick considering the game situation.

I have held my tongue on this one because I am from Cincinnati and I am sure Kitts has forgotten more about officiating than I have even learned in my short career.

That said, IMHO, the push foul was missed and traveling was called. Bad call but every game, including even some of mine, has them :)

At that point, Coach Huggins was jumping and flapping his arms apparently attempting to defy gravity. Having watched a lot of their games, he gets a "little" excited. Next thing you know he's whacked twice and gone. We're talking 30 - 60 seconds max.

No Doubt the first T was earned. Doesnt anyone think the 2nd was too quick and probably wouldnt normally be called? I know it's not cool to talk about specific officials but I am curious to discuss the game management side on this so no offense intended to Mr. Kitts.

Things we don't know....

Does Kitts and Huggins have a history?

Did Huggins get in Kitts' ear in the first half?

Maybe Kitts is "By The Book" because of the 6 player deal.

Bottom line...better decision making and shot selection by UC in the last 5 minutes really made the difference in their loss and not the T's. Still, I wonder if he had it to do over again would Kitts slam the hammer again?

Larks
VIT


ronald Mon Mar 24, 2003 06:43pm

To start I did not see the game so I do not know if the second was too quick. But what I get, and correct me if I am wrong, is that he kept complaining.

Hello, the first T says you are out of line and you need to get control of yourself and SHUT UP. You lost the privilege to put forward your thoughts when you got a T. So if you keep it up, then you deserve what you get.

It seems that in basketball coaches get a T and it is OK to continue carping, complaining or having a temper tantrum. That to me is BS. They are suppose to be role models and beacons of the highest integrity and behaviour. The players demonstrate a lot more class than many coaches who stomp and storm on the sideline. NCAA needs to tell those babies to get a better grip on reality or they will be watching the game from the locker room. Sportsmanship takes priority over "game situation" in my HO. Mike Davis would have been gone the first instance he kept on crying after the first T. To he!! with let my partner give him the second one. give em an inch (2nd ref has to boot me) and they will take a mile (2nd ref is in another world so I can pretty much get away with anything short of profanity).

Officials need to do a better job of putting those jerks in their place a lot faster. That's my 2 cents.

Jurassic Referee Mon Mar 24, 2003 06:52pm

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Originally posted by Larks
[/B]
I have held my tongue on this one because I am from Cincinnati .....
[/QUOTE]Did you use one hand,or did you need both?:D

Andy,I don't think that we'll ever know Kitts' thinking or rationale.We also don't know what instructions the crew got-r.e. maybe how their supervisor wanted the game handled.Obviously Huggins pushed the wrong buttons with him.Kitts is a fine official,and very experienced-and he's not noted for over-reacting as far as I know.We don't know Huggins' rationale for his behaviour,either.The only thing that really matters is that Kitts thought that Huggins' @ss shoulda been outa there-so it was!

Larks Mon Mar 24, 2003 07:09pm

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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Quote:

Originally posted by Larks
I have held my tongue on this one because I am from Cincinnati .....
Did you use one hand,or did you need both?:D

[/B][/QUOTE]


Hey man I am bilingual....so I used both! No wait....ambidexterous yeah...wait...Bidexterous? Ahh forget it.

No doubt Huggins pushes the envelope. He's missed several T's this season at least from my perspective. Good points on pre-game etc. I dont doubt Kitts is a good official and I'm not coming out against the 2nd T. It was an interesting game. High profile coach. Physical game. Quick Double T. Radio Announcer Ejection. Dunked ball after 3 point make. Lots of extras to think about. Game Management City.




Jurassic Referee Mon Mar 24, 2003 07:28pm

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Originally posted by Larks
Quote:

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Quote:

Originally posted by Larks
I have held my tongue on this one because I am from Cincinnati .....
Did you use one hand,or did you need both?:D


Hey man I am bilingual....so I used both! No wait....ambidexterous yeah...wait...Bidexterous? Ahh forget it.
[/B][/QUOTE]The word that you are looking for is "bisexual". It means a person who wants to get sex,but unfortunately has to buy it! Nothing personal intended.

Btw,I don't think Huggins is too smart.Massive heart attack,and then go nuts like that?

Larks Mon Mar 24, 2003 08:00pm

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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Quote:

Originally posted by Larks
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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Quote:

Originally posted by Larks
I have held my tongue on this one because I am from Cincinnati .....
Did you use one hand,or did you need both?:D


Hey man I am bilingual....so I used both! No wait....ambidexterous yeah...wait...Bidexterous? Ahh forget it.

The word that you are looking for is "bisexual". It means a person who wants to get sex,but unfortunately has to buy it! Nothing personal intended.

Btw,I don't think Huggins is too smart.Massive heart attack,and then go nuts like that? [/B][/QUOTE]



Bilexterous?

Jurassic Referee Mon Mar 24, 2003 08:08pm

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Originally posted by Larks
Bilexterous? [/B]
Supercalifragalisticesspalydocious!

Let's see if anybody gets that reference!

Let's see if anyone can figure out if that's the way it was really spelled!

Stan Mon Mar 24, 2003 10:54pm

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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Quote:

Originally posted by Larks
Bilexterous?
Supercalifragalisticesspalydocious!

Let's see if anybody gets that reference!

[/B]
Mary Poppins, thanks for asking.
Stan

Mark Dexter Mon Mar 24, 2003 11:28pm

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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Quote:

Originally posted by Larks
Bilexterous?
Supercalifragalisticesspalydocious!

Let's see if anybody gets that reference!

Let's see if anyone can figure out if that's the way it was really spelled! [/B]

Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious.



BTW, the radio announcer definately deserved to be ejected (no matter what the comments are and whether they were on or off the air). I'm just shocked that game management didn't take care of the issue before the officials. (My school has nice little name cards we put down at everyone's chair, along with a little reminder that "cheerleading" from press row is prohibited under NCAA guidelines.)

ChuckElias Tue Mar 25, 2003 08:24am

Quote:

Originally posted by Stan
Quote:

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Supercalifragalisticesspalydocious!

Let's see if anybody gets that reference!

Mary Poppins

JR, you really going for Mary Poppins there? "esspaly" isn't how I envision that word being spelled. Maybe you are making a subtle sub-reference? Or is this a case of "call the obvious"? :)

Chuck

wizard Tue Mar 25, 2003 09:41am

[/B][/QUOTE]


Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious.



BTW, the radio announcer definately deserved to be ejected (no matter what the comments are and whether they were on or off the air). I'm just shocked that game management didn't take care of the issue before the officials. (My school has nice little name cards we put down at everyone's chair, along with a little reminder that "cheerleading" from press row is prohibited under NCAA guidelines.) [/B][/QUOTE]

My understanding is Chuck Machock's father was a D-1 official for many years. So many of the officials have known Chuck for many years. And there is the usual conversations before games. With that said, Machock went over the line. This is nothing new for him. He is your typical color commentator/"Homer". The only people in Cincinnati that don't like Chuck are Xavier fans.

Jurassic Referee Tue Mar 25, 2003 10:04am

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Originally posted by ChuckElias
Quote:

Originally posted by Stan
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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Supercalifragalisticesspalydocious!

Let's see if anybody gets that reference!

Mary Poppins

JR, you really going for Mary Poppins there? "esspaly" isn't how I envision that word being spelled.

I think that Mr. Spelling Person above probably got the right spelling.He should!He's in about his eighth year of college,isn't he?

Let's try this one: scrumdidilyumptious!

Reference(Oompa,Oompa)?

rockyroad Tue Mar 25, 2003 10:30am

Quote:

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee

I think that Mr. Spelling Person above probably got the right spelling.He should!He's in about his eighth year of college,isn't he?

Let's try this one: scrumdidilyumptious!

Reference(Oompa,Oompa)?

Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory...very strange movie...I heard a radio interview with the Cinci AD about the whole situation...his comments were: 1)Huggins deserved both T's - the first for the big jump/two-footed stomp, and the second because he was 4 to 5 feet out on the court and would not move back when asked several times...2)the radio guy lost his cool and needed to go also...3)the officials in Cinci's conference games do the schools and coaches a disservice by allowing that type of behavior during the season, even though it won't be tolerated during the tournament...I was liking what he had to say up until the last part - seemed like he was trying to find a "way out" for Huggins bad behavior...

Larks Tue Mar 25, 2003 10:32am

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Originally posted by wizard
He is your typical color commentator/"Homer". The only people in Cincinnati that don't like Chuck are Xavier fans. [/B][/QUOTE]

I'd say that is a fair comment. Chuck is definately Coach Huggins' biggest fan. I dont know why people expect that announcers that work for specific schools or specific professional teams aren't "homers". Of course they are. They all pull for their teams and their target audience are made up of that team's fan base. Kinda obvious to me. It's not like these guys work for CBS or ESPN.

This does not excuse him yelling at officials from press row. We have enough people yelling at us to have to worry about those guys too.

In the end....Huggins needed this season to be over. This had to be the toughest season coaching and personally for him ever. Secretely, I bet he's glad it's over.

Jurassic Referee Tue Mar 25, 2003 10:50am

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Originally posted by rockyroad
[/B]
I heard a radio interview with the Cinci AD about the whole situation...his comments were: 3)the officials in Cinci's conference games do the schools and coaches a disservice by allowing that type of behavior during the season, even though it won't be tolerated during the tournament. [/B][/QUOTE]I wonder if there's any truth to that statement. If there is,it's a shame- but I'm not really that surprised. I'm also wondering if,instead of blaming the officials,maybe he should be blaming the officials' supervisor- who is also usually getting direction from someone above in that conference anyway.

Btw,nice catch on Willie Wonka!

Larks Tue Mar 25, 2003 11:02am

[QUOTE]Originally posted by rockyroad
[B]
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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee

I heard a radio interview with the Cinci AD about the whole situation...his comments were: 1)Huggins deserved both T's - the first for the big jump/two-footed stomp, and the second because he was 4 to 5 feet out on the court and would not move back when asked several times...2)the radio guy lost his cool and needed to go also...3)the officials in Cinci's conference games do the schools and coaches a disservice by allowing that type of behavior during the season, even though it won't be tolerated during the tournament...I was liking what he had to say up until the last part - seemed like he was trying to find a "way out" for Huggins bad behavior...


I didnt hear that interview but I did hear Goins say that he was not as concerend with Huggins' technicals because they were official's judgement calls as he was Machocks ejection. Chuck has a meeting with the Man coming up.

I would say it seemed as though there were a few games that officials could have whacked Huggins for the arm waving stomp / flight attempt this year and didnt. I doubt that those would have prevented what happened in the Zags game though. Huggs is Huggs.

I know we've had technical foul conversations in other posts but let me say this. I sense that if you do what you are supposed to do (IE See Kitts in the Zags game) you could negatively affect future opportunities. Example...there is a high school league in Cincinnati that gives the power to the coaches. You cant get in without a recommendation. You can get bumped out on one coach's no vote. Another example....In Ohio, post season officials are selected based on a vote system...by coaches.

I read on here everyone's relief that Mr. Kitt's 6-man game didnt cost him his schedule and I echo the sentiments that it was a mistake that a lot of people could have made. But, that expressed relief by all of you says something.

Jurassic Referee Tue Mar 25, 2003 11:13am

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Originally posted by Larks
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I sense that if you do what you are supposed to do (IE See Kitts in the Zags game) you could negatively affect future opportunities. Example...there is a high school league in Cincinnati that gives the power to the coaches. You cant get in without a recommendation. You can get bumped out on one coach's no vote. Another example....In Ohio, post season officials are selected based on a vote system...by coaches.

[/B][/QUOTE]Unfortunately,that's a fact of life in other places than Ohio,too,or so I hear. It's a shame that politics might prevail over officiating talent in some cases.If you do officiate in one of these areas,like Larks does,I guess that you'd best learn how to play the game if you want to advance,though.

wizard Tue Mar 25, 2003 11:16am

[/B][/QUOTE]

I sense that if you do what you are supposed to do (IE See Kitts in the Zags game) you could negatively affect future opportunities. Example...there is a high school league in Cincinnati that gives the power to the coaches.[/B][/QUOTE]

Larks:
Does this Cincinnati league start with a "G" and end with a "CL"?

Larks Tue Mar 25, 2003 11:29am

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Originally posted by wizard
I sense that if you do what you are supposed to do (IE See Kitts in the Zags game) you could negatively affect future opportunities. Example...there is a high school league in Cincinnati that gives the power to the coaches.[/B][/QUOTE]

Larks:
Does this Cincinnati league start with a "G" and end with a "CL"? [/B][/QUOTE]

I'm not sure how the GCL works at the V level. At the JV level I knew the assignor and he gave me a shot. We'll see if that leads me into the V down the road.

No, I was speaking of a different league and I'll leave it at that except to say that it also starts with a "G"

wizard Tue Mar 25, 2003 11:38am

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Originally posted by Larks

I'm not sure how the GCL works at the V level. At the JV level I knew the assignor and he gave me a shot. We'll see if that leads me into the V down the road.

No, I was speaking of a different league and I'll leave it at that except to say that it also starts with a "G" [/B]
I know that assignor and he's been good to me as well. Great guy. Many believe that doing the F and JV games for that league is as tough a doubleheader as there is. And I'd have to agree.

As for the other league, if a coach just doesn't like you, you're screwed. And some grudges can last a long time. The league is just hurting themselves.

ChuckElias Tue Mar 25, 2003 12:25pm

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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Btw,nice catch on Willie Wonka!
You're gonna have to come up with something a little tougher than Willie Wonka or Mary Poppins. I got a 7 (and a half!!) year-old daughter at home. I once watched Mary Poppins every night for about 3 weeks straight! Not good times. . .

Chuck

Larks Tue Mar 25, 2003 12:54pm

[QUOTE]Originally posted by wizard
Quote:

Originally posted by Larks

I know that assignor and he's been good to me as well. Great guy. Many believe that doing the F and JV games for that league is as tough a doubleheader as there is. And I'd have to agree.

As for the other league, if a coach just doesn't like you, you're screwed. And some grudges can last a long time. The league is just hurting themselves.
Oh yeah.....I've been told by plenty of folks that some of the JV games in the GCL are as tough as any V games in the city that night. Working the GCL has definately helped my game in other leagues.

So then you know the other "G"? I hear it's a good league to work in....just dont F up!

rockyroad Tue Mar 25, 2003 12:58pm

Quote:

Originally posted by ChuckElias
Quote:

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Btw,nice catch on Willie Wonka!
You're gonna have to come up with something a little tougher than Willie Wonka or Mary Poppins. I got a 7 (and a half!!) year-old daughter at home. I once watched Mary Poppins every night for about 3 weeks straight! Not good times. . .

Chuck

I have three sons at home, so I get the movies over and over also...so how about this one... "Oh, I do so relish these times of peril"...or "We need another plan. Preferably a Nick-less one"...

wizard Tue Mar 25, 2003 01:03pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Larks


So then you know the other "G"? I hear it's a good league to work in....just dont F up! [/B]
Yes, I know the other "G" league. I haven't done any for them. And it is a good league; this year the sectionals, they seemed to get the better of the GCL. But in the end, another State championship for a GCL South school. Congrats to Moe!

ChuckElias Tue Mar 25, 2003 02:03pm

Quote:

Originally posted by rockyroad
"Oh, I do so relish these times of peril"...or "We need another plan. Preferably a Nick-less one"...
Wow, you have got me STUMPED!! :confused:

Mark Padgett Tue Mar 25, 2003 02:15pm

Quote:

Originally posted by ChuckElias

You're gonna have to come up with something a little tougher than Willie Wonka or Mary Poppins. ...Chuck

Try this one:

Woman: "Stranger, are you looking for a nice, clean place to stay?"

Man: "Madam, I had a nice, clean place to stay. And I left it - to come here."

This same movie also had the lines:

"Do you ever think about things you do think about?"

and

"Can a sponge think?"

Jurassic Referee Tue Mar 25, 2003 03:22pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Padgett
"Can a sponge think?" [/B]
SpongeBob Squarepants can!


Mr. Trouble never hangs around
When he hears this Mighty sound:

Here I come to save the day
That means that Mighty Mouse is on the way!
Yes sir,when there is a wrong to right
Mighty Mouse will join the fight!
On the sea or on the land
He's got the situation well in hand!

Note:Strictly from memory!

I bet MP sang it as he read it,too!

Larks Tue Mar 25, 2003 03:33pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Padgett
"Can a sponge think?"
SpongeBob Squarepants can!


Mr. Trouble never hangs around
When he hears this Mighty sound:

Here I come to save the day
That means that Mighty Mouse is on the way!
Yes sir,when there is a wrong to right
Mighty Mouse will join the fight!
On the sea or on the land
He's got the situation well in hand!

Note:Strictly from memory!

I bet MP sang it as he read it,too!
[/B]

Yes folks...the board has reached a new low.

JR - Meds? Cmon buddy....twice a day remember?


ChuckElias Tue Mar 25, 2003 04:05pm

Quote:

Originally posted by rockyroad
"Oh, I do so relish these times of peril"...or "We need another plan. Preferably a Nick-less one"...
Ok, so these are Spongebob? I'm just double checking. We don't watch Nickelodean, except for the Wild Thornberries.

Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Padgett
Woman: "Stranger, are you looking for a nice, clean place to stay?"

Man: "Madam, I had a nice, clean place to stay. And I left it - to come here."

This same movie also had the lines:

"Do you ever think about things you do think about?"

and

"Can a sponge think?"

These are from a kids' movie? I have no idea about these either. Jeez, my kid movie IQ is not nearly as high as I thought.

Chuck

rockyroad Tue Mar 25, 2003 04:36pm

Quote:

Originally posted by ChuckElias
Quote:

Originally posted by rockyroad
"Oh, I do so relish these times of peril"...or "We need another plan. Preferably a Nick-less one"...
Ok, so these are Spongebob? I'm just double checking. We don't watch Nickelodean, except for the Wild Thornberries.

Chuck

No, no, no...these are from Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius (the movie)...and I'm thinking Mark's are from a WC Fields flick...

Larks Tue Mar 25, 2003 06:44pm

Machock apologizes for outburst
 
Machock apologizes for outburst


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Chuck Machock

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

By Jason Williams
Cincinnati Post staff reporter

Chuck Machock took the first step toward mending his reputation as the radio color analyst for the University of Cincinnati men's basketball team Monday.
He apologized.

Machock began head coach Bob Huggins' final weekly call-in radio show of the season by expressing his regret for being ejected during the second half of UC's loss to Gonzaga in an NCAA Tournament first-round game last Thursday in Salt Lake City.

"I want to make an apology to Bearcat Boosters, to the university and the athletic department and (athletic director) Bob Goin," Machock told the WLW-AM listening audience. "It wasn't called for. I shouldn't have done it. ... It's behind me. I'm going to be with you for a long, long time."

Machock also publicly apologized to Huggins, to whom Machock referred as a "blood brother," but did not apologize to the referee who ejected him.

Machock, a former UC volunteer assistant coach who has been a part of the Bearcats' radio broadcasts since the 1992-93 season, also informed the audience of a punishable agreement he and Goin reached while meeting last week.

Machock's talent fee from the Gonzaga game and from two games next season will be donated to C-Paws, an on-campus charitable organization.

"And he's never going to take his headset off again," Goin told The Post earlier Monday. "That's the agreement."

After speaking, Machock left the show to Huggins and host Andy Furman. Machock usually stays on the air for the duration of the hour-long show.

"He's the best," Huggins said of Machock.

Official Mike Kitts ejected Machock with 15:56 remaining in the game because he had pulled off his headphones to express his dismay with Kitts' decision to eject Huggins 21 game seconds earlier. NCAA officials and several people sitting around Machock said the radio analyst used profanity and called Kitts a derogatory name.

Machock has denied that and did not discuss specifics of the incident Monday.

Machock has a long-standing relationship with Huggins and UC, from which he graduated in 1959. Machock spent three seasons on Huggins' staff at UC before moving to his current position. Machock recruited Huggins to West Virginia in the 1970s, and they were together on the staffs at Ohio State (1978-80) and Central Florida (1983-84), where Machock was the head coach.

Mark Padgett Tue Mar 25, 2003 06:51pm

Quote:

Originally posted by rockyroad
and I'm thinking Mark's are from a WC Fields flick...
Nope. Spencer Tracy.

ChuckElias Tue Mar 25, 2003 07:36pm

Quote:

Originally posted by rockyroad
No, no, no...these are from Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius (the movie)...
Ok, I've seen that one, but only once or twice (it was a rental). I liked it, tho.

Mark Padgett Tue Mar 25, 2003 10:38pm

Since no one has even tried to guess this movie.....
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Padgett

Try this one:

Woman: "Stranger, are you looking for a nice, clean place to stay?"

Man: "Madam, I had a nice, clean place to stay. And I left it - to come here."

This same movie also had the lines:

"Do you ever think about things you do think about?"

and

"Can a sponge think?"

I'll give you the names of some of the characters.

"Man" is E.K. Hornbeck (Gene Kelly)
The two questions were asked of Matthew Harrison Brady (Fredrick March) by Henry Drummond (Spencer Tracy).

mick Tue Mar 25, 2003 10:50pm

You guys are wild!

<hr>
E.K. Hornbeck :
"I may be rancid butter, but I'm on your side of the bread."

mick Tue Mar 25, 2003 10:53pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee

I bet MP sang it as he read it,too!

I sang along.
Those are the words I remember.
...And great coloring books with those wide, dark lines....
mick

just another ref Wed Mar 26, 2003 12:31am

With all due respect ........
 
to Mary Poppins and those who love her, this is one thing I like about having a son, more tolerable movies. Try this one:

"I aim to kill you in one minute, Ned, or see you hang in Fort Smith at Judge Parker's convenience, which'll it be?"

"I call that bold talk from a one-eyed fat man."

"Fill your hand you sonuva*****!"


(This is really too easy.)

ChuckElias Wed Mar 26, 2003 08:29am

I really hope that by "more tolerable" you mean for you and not for a child (unless he's 20 by now)! :eek: If that's children's material, I'm not getting the joke. . .

DrakeM Wed Mar 26, 2003 08:59am

"I aim to kill you in one minute, Ned, or see you hang in Fort Smith at Judge Parker's convenience, which'll it be?"

"I call that bold talk from a one-eyed fat man."

"Fill your hand you sonuva*****!"

John Wayne, in "True Grit"

Larks Wed Mar 26, 2003 09:43am

Have you guys all been into JR's meds? How does a post go from Machock's ejection to discussions on T's to a couple bad jokes between JR and I to Guess this movie line competition?!?

Fine...I'll join the fray....

Rumack: You'd better tell the Captain we've got to land as soon as we can. This woman has to be gotten to a hospital.

Elaine Dickinson: A hospital? What is it?

Rumack: It's a big building with patients, but that's not important right now.

or.....same movie.....

Rumack: Captain, how soon can you land?

Clarence Oveur: I can't tell.

Rumack: You can tell me. I'm a doctor.

Clarence Oveur: No. I mean I'm just not sure.

Rumack: Well, can't you take a guess?

Clarence Oveur: Well, not for another two hours.

Rumack: You can't take a guess for another two hours?


Name that movie....







Stan Wed Mar 26, 2003 09:47am

Airport?

wizard Wed Mar 26, 2003 09:54am

Quote:

Originally posted by Larks


Name that movie....



Airplane!

Steve McCroskey: Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue!

Larks Wed Mar 26, 2003 09:55am

Quote:

Originally posted by wizard
Quote:

Originally posted by Larks


Name that movie....



Airplane!

Steve McCroskey: Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue!


You are correct sir.

wizard Wed Mar 26, 2003 10:18am

Quote:

Originally posted by Larks


You are correct sir.

If we're off a completely different tangent (movie quotes), then you referenced the best one of all.

Spaulding Smails: I want a hamburger.. no a cheeseburger. I want a hot dog. I want a...
Judge Smails: You'll get nothing, and like it.

Al Czervik: Hey, doll. Could you scare up another round for our table over here? And tell the cook this is low grade dogfood. I've had better food at the ballgame, you know? This steak still has marks from where the jockey was hitting it.

Judge Smails: It's easy to grin / When your ship comes in / And you've got the stock market beat. / But the man worthwhile, / Is the man who can smile, / When his shorts aren't too tight in the seat.

Carl Spackler: This is a hybrid. This is a cross, ah, of Bluegrass, Kentucky Bluegrass, Featherbed Bent, and Northern California Sensemilia. The amazing stuff about this is, that you can play 36 holes on it in the afternoon, take it home and just get stoned to the bejeezus-belt that night on this stuff.


THAT MOVIE IS GOLD, JERRY! PURE GOLD!

just another ref Wed Mar 26, 2003 03:43pm

Quote:

Originally posted by ChuckElias
I really hope that by "more tolerable" you mean for you and not for a child (unless he's 20 by now)! :eek: If that's children's material, I'm not getting the joke. . .
True Grit rated G....That's probably the roughest line in the whole movie.

Larks Wed Mar 26, 2003 03:56pm

Ty Webb
 
TY WEBB: I like you, Betty.

DANNY: That's Danny sir.

=====

JUDGE SMAILS: You know, you should play with Dr. Beeper and myself. Why, he's been club champion for three years running and I'm no slouch myself.

TY WEBB: Don't sell yourself short judge, you're a tremendous slouch

=====

DR. BEEPER: I thought you'd be the man to beat this year.

TY WEBB: I guess you'll just have to keep beating yourself.

=====

CARL SPACKLER: People think I'm an idiot or something, because all I do is cut lawns for a living

TY WEBB: People don't say that about you...as far as you know







just another ref Wed Mar 26, 2003 04:16pm

Don't get me wrong, I do not endorse profanity for children, but it is very common in our world and to totally shield them from it would be nearly impossible. Example:
Can anyone identify this movie quote?

"I'll slap a damn suit on you and take your whole farm."

Jurassic Referee Wed Mar 26, 2003 05:55pm

Chorus: I'm a lumberjack and I'm OK
I work all night and I sleep all day

I cut down trees,I eat my lunch
I go to the lavatory
On Wednesdays,I go shopping
And have buttered scones for tea

I cut down trees,I skip and jump
I like to press wild flowers
I put on women's clothing
And hang around in bars

I cut down trees,I wear high heels
Suspenders and a bra
I wish I'd been a girlie
Just like my dear papa!


I know that Dan and Chuck sang along!

Larks Thu Mar 27, 2003 09:50am

"You don't frighten us, English pig-dogs! -- Go and boil your bottoms, sons of a silly person. I blow my nose at you, so-called Arthur-king, you and all your silly English knnnniggets. Thppppt!. . . I don't want to talk to you no more, you empty headed animal food trough wiper! I fart in your general direction! Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries!"



Whats an elderberry?

Stan Thu Mar 27, 2003 09:59am

Quote:

Originally posted by just another ref
Don't get me wrong, I do not endorse profanity for children, but it is very common in our world and to totally shield them from it would be nearly impossible. Example:
Can anyone identify this movie quote?

"I'll slap a damn suit on you and take your whole farm."

Field of Dreams.

wizard Thu Mar 27, 2003 10:29am

Quote:

Originally posted by Larks
Whats an elderberry?

Answer: Isn't an elderberry purple and known to only grow on the westside of Cincinnati?

Bridgekeeper: Stop! What... is your name?
Galahad: Sir Galahad of Camelot.
Bridgekeeper: What... is your quest?
Galahad: I seek the Grail.
Bridgekeeper: What... is your favourite colour?
Galahad: Blue. No, yel... auuuuuuuugh!


rockyroad Thu Mar 27, 2003 10:30am

Quote:

Originally posted by Larks
"You don't frighten us, English pig-dogs! -- Go and boil your bottoms, sons of a silly person. I blow my nose at you, so-called Arthur-king, you and all your silly English knnnniggets. Thppppt!. . . I don't want to talk to you no more, you empty headed animal food trough wiper! I fart in your general direction! Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries!"



Whats an elderberry?

Hey, is this Field of Dreams also???

Larks Thu Mar 27, 2003 10:35am

Quote:

Originally posted by rockyroad
Quote:

Originally posted by Larks
"You don't frighten us, English pig-dogs! -- Go and boil your bottoms, sons of a silly person. I blow my nose at you, so-called Arthur-king, you and all your silly English knnnniggets. Thppppt!. . . I don't want to talk to you no more, you empty headed animal food trough wiper! I fart in your general direction! Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries!"



Whats an elderberry?

Hey, is this Field of Dreams also???

Uhhhh....NO :) Monty Python's and the Holy Grail.

Wizards post on favorite color is also Holy Grail

JR's song about the transvestite lumberjack I believe is from Monty Python's Flying Circus.


Larks Thu Mar 27, 2003 10:48am

How about These 2....
 
Captain: You run one time, you got yourself a set of chains. You run twice you got yourself two sets. You ain't gonna need no third set, 'cause you gonna get your mind right.

=====

Captain: What we've got here is failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach, so you get what we had here last week which is the way he wants it. Well, he gets it. And I don't like it any more than you men.



wizard Thu Mar 27, 2003 10:57am

Re: How about These 2....
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Larks
Captain: You run one time, you got yourself a set of chains. You run twice you got yourself two sets. You ain't gonna need no third set, 'cause you gonna get your mind right.

=====

Captain: What we've got here is failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach, so you get what we had here last week which is the way he wants it. Well, he gets it. And I don't like it any more than you men.



If you didn't know that this is "Cool Hand Luke" you'll to spend "a night in the box"!

just another ref Thu Mar 27, 2003 11:01am

Quote:

Originally posted by Stan
Quote:

Originally posted by just another ref
Don't get me wrong, I do not endorse profanity for children, but it is very common in our world and to totally shield them from it would be nearly impossible. Example:
Can anyone identify this movie quote?

"I'll slap a damn suit on you and take your whole farm."

Field of Dreams.

Not the one we're looking for.

ChampaignBlue Thu Mar 27, 2003 11:19am

All this movie talk reminds me of a story. 10 year olds Tommy and Susie were watching a John Wayne flick when the Duke took the woman in his arms and said "I want what I want when I want it." and he always got it. This gave little Tommy ideas and he grabbed little Susie in his arms and said "I want what I want when I want it." Little Susie pushed him away and said "You'll get what I got when I get it." A dirty joke you can tell your mother. Jim

Mark Padgett Thu Mar 27, 2003 11:44am

Not that anybody seems to care ;) but, my quotes were from "Inherit The Wind". This was the movie based on the "Scopes Monkey Trial". It starred Spencer Tracy, Fredric March, Gene Kelly, Harry Morgan, Claude Akins and Dick York.

Tracy played Henry Drummond, based on Clarence Darrow - March played Matthew Harrison Brady, based on William Jennings Bryan - York played Bertram Cates, based on the school teacher John Scopes and Gene Kelly played E.K. Hornbeck, based on newspaperman H.L. Mencken.

The movie (and the play it was derived from) was a fairly factual account of the trial in the 1920s in Dayton, TN (Hillsboro TN in the movie) in which a HS science teacher was arrested for violating a state law prohibiting the teaching of evolution.

Call It Both Ways! Thu Mar 27, 2003 11:56am

Boy,

All these Caddyshack quotes on an Officials Forum and no.....

Ty to Carl standing in Carl's "living room" : "Can I get a ruling"???

BktBallRef Thu Mar 27, 2003 12:12pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Padgett
The movie (and the play it was derived from) was a fairly factual account of the trial in the 1920s in Dayton, TN (Hillsboro TN in the movie) in which a HS science teacher was arrested for violating a state law prohibiting the teaching of evolution.
Never saw the movie, sorry, but I was aware of the trial.

As an aside, I've officiated many games at Rhea Co. High School, which is in Dayton, TN! ;)

dblref Thu Mar 27, 2003 12:13pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Larks
"You don't frighten us, English pig-dogs! -- Go and boil your bottoms, sons of a silly person. I blow my nose at you, so-called Arthur-king, you and all your silly English knnnniggets. Thppppt!. . . I don't want to talk to you no more, you empty headed animal food trough wiper! I fart in your general direction! Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries!"



Whats an elderberry?

A really, really old berry. May be Rick or Jon. :D

rockyroad Thu Mar 27, 2003 12:45pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Larks
[

Hey, is this Field of Dreams also???

Uhhhh....NO :) Monty Python's and the Holy Grail.

Wizards post on favorite color is also Holy Grail

JR's song about the transvestite lumberjack I believe is from Monty Python's Flying Circus.

[/B][/QUOTE]

Darn, I thought I had that one nailed! :) Anyway...here's one from one of my favorite tv shows when I was a young'un...

"Branded. Branded as a traitor man.
Branded. Branded as a traitor man.
To prove you're a man, you must live off the land,
When you're branded.
Branded as a traitor man."

Of course, as kids we had another version which used the word stranded and had to do with not having any toilet paper, but that's for another post...

Mark Padgett Thu Mar 27, 2003 01:15pm

One of my favorites.......
 
I love Bosco
It's made with TNT
Mommy puts it in my milk to try to poison me
But I fooled Mommy
I put it in her tea
Now there's no more Mommy
To try to poison me


Sick, huh?

ChuckElias Thu Mar 27, 2003 04:55pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Call It Both Ways!
Boy,

All these Caddyshack quotes on an Officials Forum and no.....

It's your honor, Your Honor. :)

wizard Thu Mar 27, 2003 05:02pm

[B]
Quote:

Originally posted by Call It Both Ways!
Boy,

All these Caddyshack quotes on an Officials Forum and no.....

Oh, this is the worst-looking hat I ever saw. What, when you buy a hat like this I bet you get a free bowl of soup, huh? Oh, it looks good on you though.

just another ref Thu Mar 27, 2003 07:43pm

Quote:

Originally posted by wizard
Oh, this is the worst-looking hat I ever saw. What, when you buy a hat like this I bet you get a free bowl of soup, huh? Oh, it looks good on you though.

"Hey Whitey, where's your hat? I betcha a thousand bucks you slice into the rough."

"Gambling is illegal at Bushwood, and I never slice.
OH#%@**%!!!"

Larks Thu Mar 27, 2003 08:17pm

More Ty Webb
 
Ty Webb:

I was born to love you,

I was born to lick your face,

I was born to rub you,

But you were born to rub me first.

just another ref Fri Mar 28, 2003 01:21am

Quote:

Originally posted by just another ref
Don't get me wrong, I do not endorse profanity for children, but it is very common in our world and to totally shield them from it would be nearly impossible. Example:
Can anyone identify this movie quote?

"I'll slap a damn suit on you and take your whole farm."

The above quote is from <i>The Wizard of Oz</i>. It happened when the mean old lady came to take poor Toto away to be destroyed. Don't worry, he got away.

NICK Fri Mar 28, 2003 03:55am

Elderberry? the edible black or red berrylike drupe of any of a genus (Sambucus) of shrubs or trees of the honeysuckle family bearing flat clusters of small white or pink flowers.
Wine can be made from elderberries.

Jurassic Referee Fri Mar 28, 2003 04:22am

Quote:

Originally posted by just another ref
[/B]
It happened when the mean old lady came to take poor Toto away to be destroyed. Don't worry, he got away. [/B][/QUOTE]Yeah,and don't think that that didn't piss me off! :mad:

mick Fri Mar 28, 2003 07:57am

Quote:

Originally posted by just another ref
Quote:

Originally posted by just another ref
Don't get me wrong, I do not endorse profanity for children, but it is very common in our world and to totally shield them from it would be nearly impossible. Example:
Can anyone identify this movie quote?

"I'll slap a damn suit on you and take your whole farm."

The above quote is from <i>The Wizard of Oz</i>. It happened when the mean old lady came to take poor Toto away to be destroyed. Don't worry, he got away.

It is hard for me to believe that word was used in that movie.

A Pennsylvania Coach Fri Mar 28, 2003 09:00am

as usual, mick is correct
 
Quote:

Originally posted by mick
Quote:

Originally posted by just another ref
Quote:

Originally posted by just another ref
Don't get me wrong, I do not endorse profanity for children, but it is very common in our world and to totally shield them from it would be nearly impossible. Example:
Can anyone identify this movie quote?

"I'll slap a damn suit on you and take your whole farm."

The above quote is from <i>The Wizard of Oz</i>. It happened when the mean old lady came to take poor Toto away to be destroyed. Don't worry, he got away.

It is hard for me to believe that word was used in that movie.

Don'cha love Google?

http://www.un-official.com/The_Daily...t/ms_wizoz.htm


MISS GULCH
If you don't hand over that dog, I'll bring
a damage suit that'll take your whole farm!
There's a law protecting folks against dogs
that bite!

Mark Dexter Fri Mar 28, 2003 09:14am

"Janie, make a note. We need to schedule more events where somebody gives me a really big fish."

ChuckElias Fri Mar 28, 2003 09:41am

Quote:

Originally posted by Larks
WOODY: Can I pour you a draft, Mr. Peterson?
NORM: A little early, isn't it Woody?
WOODY: For a beer?
NORM: No, for stupid questions.

Well, since Larks is using a Cheers quote, here's my favorite Normism. Norm walks in the bar. It's snowing outside.

Woody: Hey, Mr. Peterson. What's up?
Norm: My nipples, Woody. It's cold out there!

Still makes me laugh :)

Larks Fri Mar 28, 2003 10:10am

Here's one....
 
Momma: Owen! Food!
Owen: In a minute, Momma.
Momma: Don't you "In a minute, Momma" me! Get off your fat little a$$ or I'll break it for you! I want two soft boiled eggs, white toast, and some of that grape jelly god damn it! And don't burn the toast!
Owen: Kill her, Larry.

And...

Momma: Who the Hell are you?
Larry Donner: I'm Owen's friend.
Momma: Owen doesn't have a friend.
Larry Donner: That's because he's shy.
Momma: No, he's not; he's fat and he's stupid.





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