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Old Wed Aug 31, 2011, 09:46am
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Working lots of FIBA games, my understanding is that FIBA discourages faking being fouled moreso that Fed does.

I think the T is a good call. If there was a no-call on this one, I'm ok with that as well. This sort of play draws the line, that's for sure.
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If not a charge, im calling a block on this "actor". I don't see a no-call here. I rather call a block then a tech under NFHS for this situation.

For the no-caller's, why a no-call?
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A block is a cop-out. You're not going to discourage flopping unless you call the T.

Mind you, you have to be positive you saw a flop in order to call it. That said, if we're so comfortable with T-ing up players for unsportsmanlike conduct, why are we so uncomfortable with the T for faking fouls? Isn't faking unsportsmanlike?
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Old Wed Aug 31, 2011, 01:43pm
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If not a charge, im calling a block on this "actor". I don't see a no-call here. I rather call a block then a tech under NFHS for this situation.

For the no-caller's, why a no-call?
Tell me what the defender did wrong by rule to get a blocking foul on the play.

I said a no-call because the contact was marginal helped by the fact that the defender was trying his giving his best Oscar performance on the play and didn't rise to the level of illegal contact.
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Tell me what the defender did wrong by rule to get a blocking foul on the play.

I said a no-call because the contact was marginal helped by the fact that the defender was trying his giving his best Oscar performance on the play and didn't rise to the level of illegal contact.
A "block" is the call that some people call to send a message without calling the T. Calling nothing could, in some games, lead to problems.
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Old Wed Aug 31, 2011, 02:03pm
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A "block" is the call that some people call to send a message without calling the T. Calling nothing could, in some games, lead to problems.
I know the call...but usually that involves both players going to the floor if one goes that route. If the offensive player isn't affected at all, why put air in the whistle? On this play, the offensive player's defender is on the floor because he's taken himself out of the play
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Old Wed Aug 31, 2011, 02:25pm
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I know the call...but usually that involves both players going to the floor if one goes that route. If the offensive player isn't affected at all, why put air in the whistle? On this play, the offensive player's defender is on the floor because he's taken himself out of the play
Usually. But he can do it only 4 more times. Which only once if a tech is given already. I like to use it if in any way I can say the offensive player's speed, rhythm, and balance was affected by the flop. It sends a message to the flopper to knock it off.
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Usually. But he can do it only 4 more times. Which only once if a tech is given already. I like to use it if in any way I can say the offensive player's speed, rhythm, and balance was affected by the flop. It sends a message to the flopper to knock it off.
Now that I think about it, it's the only situation where it's ever been suggested to me to go with the "block" because it's a potential safety issue.

On this play, why have a whistle? The defender is legal after all...this isn't an RSBQ play to me...first of all, the ball handler was already trying to stop short of the defender before the defender tried going Hollywood. If the defender wouldn't have fell to the floor, we're not even discussing this play. By putting air in the whistle, you've penalized a defender that technically did nothing wrong.
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