Faking Being Fouled

[nine01c]

Regardless of the "acting" performance, this is simply a BLOCK because the defender did not establish Legal Guarding Position before he got into the path of the dribbler (and caused the contact).

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by nine01c

Regardless of the "acting" performance, this is simply a BLOCK because the defender did not establish Legal Guarding Position before he got into the path of the dribbler (and caused the contact).

I seriously hope that you don't believe that there was no LGP. There certainly was. It was established almost immediately after the offensive player caught the pass. Shortly thereafter the defender did exactly what is in red. One can see this as early as four seconds into the video.

The only point for debate is how much contact there was and how much acting.

[tref]

I dont know FIBA rules, so I cant comment on the T.

But the play itself made for a tough call for the slot, its definitely a bang-bang play!
LGP established... A1s arm is out but not extended... defender goes hollywood upon minor contact...

The most positive thing about this play is the calling officials position adjustment! WOW thats a great example of energetic movement with a purpose! Although a look from the topside (T) is the A look for this play, the step down put him in a GREAT place to referee the matchup. I wonder what the call would've been minus the T?

[JugglingReferee]

B maintained LGP.

Working lots of FIBA games, my understanding is that FIBA discourages faking being fouled moreso that Fed does.

I think the T is a good call. If there was a no-call on this one, I'm ok with that as well. This sort of play draws the line, that's for sure.

[NCHSAA]

If not a charge, im calling a block on this "actor". I don't see a no-call here. I rather call a block then a tech under NFHS for this situation.

For the no-caller's, why a no-call?

[bainsey]

A block is a cop-out. You're not going to discourage flopping unless you call the T.

Mind you, you have to be positive you saw a flop in order to call it. That said, if we're so comfortable with T-ing up players for unsportsmanlike conduct, why are we so uncomfortable with the T for faking fouls? Isn't faking unsportsmanlike?

[APG]

Originally Posted by NCHSAA

If not a charge, im calling a block on this "actor". I don't see a no-call here. I rather call a block then a tech under NFHS for this situation.

For the no-caller's, why a no-call?

Tell me what the defender did wrong by rule to get a blocking foul on the play.

I said a no-call because the contact was marginal helped by the fact that the defender was trying his giving his best Oscar performance on the play and didn't rise to the level of illegal contact.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

Tell me what the defender did wrong by rule to get a blocking foul on the play.

I said a no-call because the contact was marginal helped by the fact that the defender was trying his giving his best Oscar performance on the play and didn't rise to the level of illegal contact.

A "block" is the call that some people call to send a message without calling the T. Calling nothing could, in some games, lead to problems.