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Old Wed Aug 17, 2011, 08:21pm
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Being an independent contractor, I believe it’s at your discretion on how you what to proceed with this concept. It’s a bunch of bullsh#t. I hope the leadership of these associations has weighed the pros and con’s and have a pool of capable officials IF there is attrition from their association.
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Old Thu Aug 18, 2011, 12:04am
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Being an independent contractor, I believe it’s at your discretion on how you what to proceed with this concept. It’s a bunch of bullsh#t. I hope the leadership of these associations has weighed the pros and con’s and have a pool of capable officials IF there is attrition from their association.
OK, so let's say you are a real estate agent, but you don't have a car. You have a bus pass and you can get to every house visit, you just may get there late. Is that a good look for the company?
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Old Thu Aug 18, 2011, 02:08am
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Being an independent contractor, I believe it’s at your discretion on how you what to proceed with this concept. It’s a bunch of bullsh#t. I hope the leadership of these associations has weighed the pros and con’s and have a pool of capable officials IF there is attrition from their association.
Also, being independent contractors, the assigning organization have the right to give the contract to someone else for just about any reason that is not one of a few protected classes....and being unfit is not one of them.

Some organizations might find that younger promising refs might stay a little longer if they saw the older less fit officials not getting assignments that have passed them by 10-15 years before.
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Old Thu Aug 18, 2011, 03:11am
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Being an independent contractor, I believe it’s at your discretion on how you what to proceed with this concept. It’s a bunch of bullsh#t. I hope the leadership of these associations has weighed the pros and con’s and have a pool of capable officials IF there is attrition from their association.
I can tell you that WEIGHING the issue was certainly foremost on our minds when we put this in. For the people who took your attitude and didn't cooperate, we simply informed them that they are independent contractors and they didn't have to do anything. However, we also let them know that as such they don't have a right to any assignments. If they chose not to qualify themselves for certain levels of games, then they wouldn't receive those assignments. It was really that simple.
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Nevada, why have them run backwards?
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Old Thu Aug 18, 2011, 07:44am
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Nevada, why have them run backwards?
and why have them run 1.5 miles? That seems to have almost nothing to do with basketball officiating.
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and why have them run 1.5 miles? That seems to have almost nothing to do with basketball officiating.
I believe Nevada is talking about a soccer fitness test, not basketball. (Correct me if I'm wrong, Silver.)

In soccer, we do run backwards sometimes. I know the basketball mentality is that running backwards doesn't look good (especially when I caught my heel and crashed near the bleachers last winter), but it's a necessity in soccer, particularly when you're working a two-man crew, and you find yourself 10-20 yards from your touchline (sideline).

While we don't have a fitness test for our basketball board, we are required every year to submit our time of a 1.5 mile run.
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Old Thu Aug 18, 2011, 08:12pm
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and why have them run 1.5 miles? That seems to have almost nothing to do with basketball officiating.
Guys, I was responding to bainsey's post about his SOCCER fitness test.
I already posted what our basketball association does in an earlier post. This one pertained to my soccer group.

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I believe Nevada is talking about a soccer fitness test, not basketball. (Correct me if I'm wrong, Silver.)

In soccer, we do run backwards sometimes. I know the basketball mentality is that running backwards doesn't look good (especially when I caught my heel and crashed near the bleachers last winter), but it's a necessity in soccer, particularly when you're working a two-man crew, and you find yourself 10-20 yards from your touchline (sideline).

While we don't have a fitness test for our basketball board, we are required every year to submit our time of a 1.5 mile run.
Correct. And my time was 11:07.
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Correct. And my time was 11:07.
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Being an independent contractor, I believe it’s at your discretion on how you what to proceed with this concept. It’s a bunch of bullsh#t. I hope the leadership of these associations has weighed the pros and con’s and have a pool of capable officials IF there is attrition from their association.
Why is it a bunch of bullsh#t? There are a lot of jobs that have physical requirements to perform.
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Old Thu Aug 18, 2011, 02:22pm
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Why is it a bunch of bullsh#t? There are a lot of jobs that have physical requirements to perform.
I agree. We are talking about proving you can run for a job that requires you to...wait for it...run! We also aren't talking about Olympic-level requirements.

Kind of reminds me of people in the Air Force complaining about the PT test.
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