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Originally posted by JRutledge
Quote:
Originally posted by Hawks Coach
If a player has the ball, a defender is waving arms and accidentally pokes in the eye (and you see the poke in the eye), it is not clear to me why this is not a foul. It is contact, it is illegal,and it results in an unfair advantage for the defense.
To me,the accidental eye poke is like the accidental high stick in hockey - the defender may not have meant to do it, but when it happens, it should be a foul. I know it is not always called that way, but I wish it was.
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Well, basketball is not hockey. So if a player just falls to the ground, I am not calling something just because. There has to be contact, not just what looks like contact. Sorry, good no call.
Peace
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Rut
I am not talking about imagining contact where none occurs. Read the whole post please. I stipulated that the ref must see the poke in the eye. Hockey is no different. You have to see the high stick to call the high stick. The principle that I was referring to in my post is very applicable - you have to be in control of your hands, arms, etc, just like the hockey player must control his stick.
Accidents that result in illegal contact are fouls. Seeing a player fall or grab an eye does not result in a foul if you see only the result and not the contact that caused it. I did not see the UNC-Duke game, so I don't know if it was a good or bad call (or no-call). I have seen many refs treat an accidental eye poke that they saw as incidental contact. I have had a ref tell me that he saw it, it was an accident, therefore no call. I strongly disagree with that opinion.
Tue Mar 11, 2003, 04:22pm
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