Anyone ever call a flop unsportsmanlike?

[RecRef]

IMO - Flopping is defiantly a case for game management. My favorite line is, “Nice acting job but not an Academy Award performance. Be careful, if I think for one second you are faking it I’ll award you a technical.” Failed to work only one time and he got the T.

[ROMANO]

SO you all agree with me that technical foul is the best call in this situation??and not unsportmanlike?

[ChuckElias]

Originally posted by ROMANO
SO you all agree with me that technical foul is the best call in this situation??and not unsportmanlike?

David, the confusion here stems from the fact that FIBA apparently places "unsportsmanlike" fouls in the category of personal -- that is, contact -- fouls. In the USA (and Canada, I think), we use primarily NFHS or NCAA rules; and in both NFHS and NCAA, unsportsmanlike fouls are NEVER personal fouls. They are always technical fouls.

So when you say, "It's not unsportsmanlike; but it IS technical", many of us on this side of the ocean are confused. According to FIBA rules, it sounds like you are exactly right. In NFHS or NCAA, however, you'd be wrong.

Chuck

[NICK]

Hi Romano and Chuck, thanks for the input. We do not penalize flopping as we consider it to be a part of the game. If the player can suck a foul of the ref, good luck to him. Even some good coaches that I know will get their players to try this.

[ChuckElias]

Originally posted by NICK
We do not penalize flopping as we consider it to be a part of the game.

Part of the game? How is falling down for no reason construed as part of the game? The game is about height, speed, strength and athleticism. Unless you're in the WWE, falling down doesn't fall into any of those categories. I would re-think that philosophy, if I were in your area. JMO, as always.

Chuck

[Rich]

I don't know that I've ever called a flop a technical foul -- however, I will ALWAYS call a block in that situation

Rich

[ROMANO]

ChuckElias
not only WWE ...it's part of the game in WWF also and WCW...

[ChuckElias]

Originally posted by ROMANO
not only WWE ...it's part of the game in WWF also and WCW...

David, not that this is a wrestling forum, but the WWF and the WCW no longer exist. The WCW was bought by the WWF a couple years ago. Then the WWF was forced to change its name to the WWE b/c of a lawsuit brought against it by the World Wildlife Fund (WWF).

So now the WCW and the WWF are both defunct and are in the WWE family.

Always trying to help

Chuck

[ROMANO]

WHAT??????????? this isn't a wrestling forum??
****!!!I was hoping to met the UNDERTAKER...(IS he still alive?!)

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally posted by ChuckElias

Part of the game? How is falling down for no reason construed as part of the game? The game is about height, speed, strength and athleticism. Unless you're in the WWE, falling down doesn't fall into any of those categories. I would re-think that philosophy, if I were in your area. JMO, as always.

Chuck

Uh,Chuck,if you were in Nick's area,you would be in New Zealand(as in FIBA rules,and probably a local philosophy regarding "flopping").

Grumpy l'il feller today,aren't ya?

[ROMANO]

p.s
Chuck
thank you for helping me.
wwf ,wcw , wwe, all the same -BIG BIG FLOP!

[ROMANO]

SORRY
I forget NWO(NEW WORLD ORDER)and the bed guy =RAIZER RAMON...

[BlackFox40]

During a YMCA organized game a kid flopped after he went up for a lay up and came down on both knees. At that moment I didn't make any call because it was so obvious of the flop. (I then waited to see what this kid was up to.) He then picked himself up and proceeded down court without questioning the official,on the other hand his coach was wanting the foul. A couple of plays later the same kid comes flying by for the lay up and once again he lands on his knees, I immediately blew my whistle and looked towards the table and called officials time out. I asked the kid if he was alright then instructed him to cut the crap with the flops and asked him who taught him to flop he was so petrified with my tone of voice that he confessed that he's Dad taught him to flop, coincidentally his father was the coach. I walked over to the coach and said you teach this unsportsmenship tactic to any kid and your going to find yourself outside of this gym for good. I then tee'd up the little wet fish.

[AK ref SE]

I will normally tell the flopper the first time not to do it again nad have a no-call. If this flopper continues he/she has earned him/herself a blocking call evertime there after. Usually only takes one!

AK ref SE

[jdccpa]

4-20-13...."faking being fouled". I would have called it.