Coaches Comments... - Page 2

BktBallRef · #16 (**permalink**) Fri Feb 21, 2003, 12:37am

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Originally posted by CK
Home Coach calls for a time out, I grant and ask him if he wants a full or half, he takes a half.

Whatthehell is a half?

just another ref · #17 (**permalink**) Fri Feb 21, 2003, 02:28am

8th grade boys PC foul on A1. Coach A yelled (referring to B1) "He didn't even fall down!"

JRutledge · #18 (**permalink**) Fri Feb 21, 2003, 02:36am

that I did several years ago, the coach yelled at my partner after he called a 5 second violation. The coach said, "You cannot start the count until she slaps the ball!"

I almost walked off the court in laughter.

Peace

Jim Armstrong · #19 (**permalink**) Fri Feb 21, 2003, 09:23am

JV Girls game, A team coach is upset about the foul count, she steps out slightly on the floor and yells, please just call it evenly, that's all I'm asking, just call it both ways. The funny thing was the foul count was 4 to 2 in her favor. I had to almost bite my lip off, not to tell her, OK coach, if you want us to call it evenly, I'll have to call 2 more fouls on your team to even it up.

fletch_irwin_m · #20 (**permalink**) Fri Feb 21, 2003, 11:10am

Coach "Good Call .......... D&*%m it! Why do all the good calls go against us?"

Dan_ref · #21 (**permalink**) Fri Feb 21, 2003, 11:18am

Near end of close boys game, coach A calls time out to set up play while in front court. Play doesn't work, I'm standing next to coach A and he says "Dan, maybe you can tell me why I do this" I show him my whistle and say "I'm having fun, why don't you join us." He looks at me, laughs & says "You are nuts, not in a million years."

Hawks Coach · #22 (**permalink**) Fri Feb 21, 2003, 11:20am

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Originally posted by Snaqwells
Freshman girls
A is leading by an insurmountable score in the first quarter (B is that bad.) A is taking the ball out of bounds right in front of B's bench, hopping around a bit looking for an open teammate. B coach is murmuring in my ear, "she's traveling. She's traveling. She's traveling."
Later in the second quarter, he does it again.

I didn't have the heart to correct him in front of his players.

snaqwells

This is a widespread misconception that should be corrected. You normally have ample opportunity to get a coach's attention and quietly inform him - doesn't have to be right when he is saying it. But this is one where I would explain the rule - cause not even all refs get this one right.

Dan_ref · #23 (**permalink**) Fri Feb 21, 2003, 11:26am

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Originally posted by Hawks Coach

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Originally posted by Snaqwells
Freshman girls
A is leading by an insurmountable score in the first quarter (B is that bad.) A is taking the ball out of bounds right in front of B's bench, hopping around a bit looking for an open teammate. B coach is murmuring in my ear, "she's traveling. She's traveling. She's traveling."
Later in the second quarter, he does it again.

I didn't have the heart to correct him in front of his players.

snaqwells

This is a widespread misconception that should be corrected. You normally have ample opportunity to get a coach's attention and quietly inform him - doesn't have to be right when he is saying it. But this is one where I would explain the rule - cause not even all refs get this one right.

You are right, there is widespread misunderstanding on the throw-in rules, but I no longer bother explaining this one unless asked by the HC. The reaction I get when explaining this is always shocked disbelief, like I just told him there is no Santa Claus.

Hawks Coach · #24 (**permalink**) Fri Feb 21, 2003, 11:45am

I guess I am saying that asking for a violation that doesn't exist is asking the question, and could be responded to. Most coaches do not know this rule. They think that on made baskets the "travelling" rule is waived, a misconception that is further supported when refs call travelling violations on spot throw-ins.

There are many thins I would advise you to ignore - other things just need to be corrected so we have a better understanding of these rules out there. This falls in the latter category, IMO.

MN 3 Sport Ref · #25 (**permalink**) Fri Feb 21, 2003, 12:53pm

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Originally posted by Hawks Coach
I guess I am saying that asking for a violation that doesn't exist is asking the question, and could be responded to. Most coaches do not know this rule. They think that on made baskets the "travelling" rule is waived, a misconception that is further supported when refs call travelling violations on spot throw-ins.

There are many thins I would advise you to ignore - other things just need to be corrected so we have a better understanding of these rules out there. This falls in the latter category, IMO.

Hawks: You just got done saying in another thread that we should not be coaching the kids on the floor, yet you think we should be taking time during the game to conduct a rules clinic for incompetant coaches. However much I would like to do this during a game, most coaches that do not know the rule won't be willing to believe that they are wrong anyways. Is this not why they publish rule books and have meetings at the beginning of each season (at least here in MN) that coaches are required to attend???

Maybe in the off-season you should go on a crusade to educate other coaches and fans on Understanding Basketball 101. I've often thought I could become a millionare if I did this, maybe we should start a partnership

Hawks Coach · #26 (**permalink**) Fri Feb 21, 2003, 01:26pm

I think my position is perfectly consistent. If you need to communicate something, communicate it to the person in charge - head coach. If it involves a player and you can make a quick comment, like in the other thread on the almost carry, that's probably OK too. But you are not there to coach the players - and I think there are clearly situations where refs take it upon themselves to step out of their role with respect to players.

As for whether or not you should even deal with the coach on this, think about it from a game management perspective if nothing else. Do you really want to hear about these "travelling" calls the rest of the game when you have an easy fix for this? You may also save your fellow refs an earful the rest of the season.

If you don't think it's your job to say something, I guess I can't argue that - do what you think is right. The rules don't say you need to tell the coach anything about this non-call. Just seems like a simple thing to me, and not a bad thing either.

bludevil1221 · #27 (**permalink**) Sat Feb 22, 2003, 02:59pm

Hey dont you like it when a home coach is all nice when you get to the gym, asks you how your'e doing, wants to know if he can get you somethin. But after you call something he doesn't like, you never hear from him again.

Mark Padgett · #28 (**permalink**) Sat Feb 22, 2003, 03:13pm

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Originally posted by bludevil1221
Hey dont you like it when a home coach is all nice when you get to the gym, asks you how your'e doing, wants to know if he can get you somethin. But after you call something he doesn't like, you never hear from him again.

Does this really work? If so, I'm going to make calls they both don't like really early. Hmmmm, never hearing from him again. What's the down side?

reed2310 · #29 (**permalink**) Sun Feb 23, 2003, 04:07pm

A1 is at baseline to inbound the ball. Throws it to A2 on other side of halfcourt. Coach starts yelling for over and back. Just had to laugh at him....

rainmaker · #30 (**permalink**) Mon Feb 24, 2003, 01:23am

Blew the foul, got to the table to report and realized I wasn't sure of the player's number. It was taped over in a not very legible way. I turned to her coach and asked, "What's the number of that girl? Three or Thirty-one or what?" Coach said, "Thirty-one. But next foul it'll be three!"