What if...

tref · #1 (**permalink**) Thu Jul 21, 2011, 10:21am

Yeah, I did not see the play either. Discussion with a buddy...

Adam · #2 (**permalink**) Thu Jul 21, 2011, 11:04am

An elbow swing at the head, bye bye. A "get off me b1tch" elbow swung in the general direction, double T. Anything in between, the dreaded J word comes into play.

derwil · #3 (**permalink**) Thu Jul 21, 2011, 11:56am

Agree w/ Snaq on this one. Unfortunately when our judgement comes into play, the greater the reaction of the offended to the initial play, the greater the penalty for both.

tomegun · #4 (**permalink**) Thu Jul 21, 2011, 01:35pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells

An elbow swing at the head, bye bye. A "get off me b1tch" elbow swung in the general direction, double T. Anything in between, the dreaded J word comes into play.

I pose this question to spark debate - I wasn't there so I cannot say what I would do for sure.

Do you think a double technical foul is the path of least resistance and we would like to go there when we shouldn't because they would offset?

Adam · #5 (**permalink**) Thu Jul 21, 2011, 04:15pm

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Originally Posted by tomegun

I pose this question to spark debate - I wasn't there so I cannot say what I would do for sure.

Do you think a double technical foul is the path of least resistance and we would like to go there when we shouldn't because they would offset?

Not sure I understand the question. I think it's wholly appropriate to go double when the second player retaliates. The hole is in the rules.

tomegun · #6 (**permalink**) Thu Jul 21, 2011, 06:19pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Not sure I understand the question. I think it's wholly appropriate to go double when the second player retaliates. The hole is in the rules.

Are you saying a missed elbow and the other player getting up in the other player's face are equal and warrant a penalty that becomes administrative (double technicals) for the most part?

I still may not be clear, but I'm not sure if the two things warrant a double T. If two players are going at each other a square off, Charlie Range used to always say, "If you go in to get in between two players come out with a double technical". I'm not sure that applies to a missed elbow and then they square off. Again, seeing the play matters.

Adam · #7 (**permalink**) Thu Jul 21, 2011, 08:05pm

I'm saying both acts, individually, deserve technical fouls. The rules dictate a double foul at that point. I agree they're not equal, but the rules are the same. I dont think it's particularly "fair" but the same is true for those two fouls if they were committed an hour apart. How would you propose addressing it? Toss the elbow thrower and a standard T for the one who reacts verbally?

tomegun · #8 (**permalink**) Thu Jul 21, 2011, 08:39pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells

How would you propose addressing it? Toss the elbow thrower and a standard T for the one who reacts verbally?

Unless I'm missing something, yes. Using your example, if those things happen an hour apart, wouldn't you toss one player and give the other a T? I could be missing something; my brain is pretty fried right now.