You make the call!

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Did he slide the pivot foot before he pivoted?

If you need to watch the replay 6 times to figure it out, then no, he didn't.

[Da Official]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

If you need to watch the replay 6 times to figure it out, then no, he didn't.

Agreed....

[bob jenkins]

Rebounding foul (aka "over the back")

[BLydic]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Rebounding foul (aka "over the back")

First impression yes, but I'm leaning more towards a patient whistle to see results of the play. Does white secure the ball? If so, I'm passing. Unfortunately the video ends too soon.

[reffish]

It goes OOB to white.

[JugglingReferee]

At this age group and skill level, definitely have a patient whistle on the rebounding action at the end of the video.

If a PC was called, I'd have no problem with it. I would expect a PC call if similar action was called earlier in the game and by your P. You might not call a PC based on this play alone, but you may have to adapt if this is called a PC up to this point.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BLydic

First impression yes, but I'm leaning more towards a patient whistle to see results of the play. Does white secure the ball? If so, I'm passing. Unfortunately the video ends too soon.

I got nothing on that rebound, either.

[APG]

I guess since there's multiple aspects in which we're judging on rather than just the block/charge play:

No travel
Nothing on the block/charge play
Nothing on the rebounding action...regardless of who got the ball subsequently...at least from the portion of rebounding action we are afforded.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Travel?

Originally Posted by stiffler3492

I don't think so. His pivot foot on the spin never came back down.

Originally Posted by Brick43

No travel because like stiffler's mom said the pivot never came back down. In saying that I see many officials call that a travel. Likewise a no call here gets screams from every coach "travel".

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

If you need to watch the replay 6 times to figure it out, then no, he didn't.

Originally Posted by Da Official

Agreed....

I've watched the video about a dozen times. If his left foot is the pivot foot, then stiffler3492, and friends, are correct, the left foot never comes down.

Thanks reffish. Nice video.

[tref]

Tough decision to make, great teaching points in the 9 second clip!

If there is a call to be made, who has it... the L across the paint or the C who is not engaged whatsoever?

Looks like they were so caught up in the block/charge/nothing play, that a g/t may have been missed.

[btaylor64]

I like the no call

[Jeremy Hohn]

Originally Posted by btaylor64

I like the no call

Another vote for no call. It didn't seem that he displaced the defender to that degree, and his movement went back away from the defender rotating toward the goal.

As others have stated, if you had a similar play called a PC foul earlier, then get that one to "Mirror plays" for your crew.

[just another ref]

Having the philosophy that we will make the same call on "similar plays" is a crock, in my opinion. No matter how similar two plays may be, they may still fall on opposite sides of a very fine line. Each must be judged on its own merit.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Having the philosophy that we will make the same call on "similar plays" is a crock, in my opinion. No matter how similar two plays may be, they may still fall on opposite sides of a very fine line. Each must be judged on its own merit.

It might be a crock to you personally, but not to all supervisors.

There is crew consistency. And I know my supervisors don't want to hear a "fine line" explanation for why 49/51, 51/49, or 50/50 plays were called differently on one end of the court as opposed to the other.

[Judtech]

As the contrarian, what about a travel on the initial rebound and dribble out? Then I have nothing till an on the back rebound foul after the shot.