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That's a good point. I should've stepped up and said no, we have a travel first.
The pregame, I have never heard of ALWAYS taking the violation first. You could, like previously posted, have a foul causing the violation. Sounds like a cop out to me, like let's get this game over with. Just my opinion. |
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It's part of my pregame that in that situation we get together and talk about what happened first..........If a player gets bumped and that causes a travel and you call the violation you are penalizing the player twice. First they don't get the foul, second they lose possesion..........Determine what came first......
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I lost a number yesterday. 8th grade boys, playoffs, overtime. In my area elementary games are only done by one official so I was on my own. The game was played at a neutral site and the team that was supposed to bring scorers forgot so by mutual agreement of the coaches the coach of the forgetful team was keeping the sheet. I asked him before the game if he knew what he was doing and he said "Of course I do." Foolishly I believed him. In the overtime his team was down by a point w/ about 30 seconds left when I called a hold on one of his players. He recorded the foul and then looked back up at me ready to go. I was getting ready to check the ball in when as an afterthought I asked how many team fouls his team had. "Oh, 7" he said brightly. Great, fantastic. "OK, bonus, " I said trying to bluster my way out of it hoping the right kid would go to the line. Lo and behold when I arrived at the other end there was someone standing there ready to shoot. Unfortunately the other team immediately started yelling that he hadn't gotten fouled. After a quick interrogation, backed up with the threat of a technical for lying- the right player got to the line and proceeded to brick the shot. I didn't penalize the team that tried to cheat. Should I have?
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You put yourself in a bind with your threat
There is a technical for the wrong player attempting to shoot the FT. If it was intentional (as opposed to an honest misundrstanding of which contact resulted in your foul call), it is a T. However, you kind of bailed on that when you threatened a T if they didn't own up. At that point, I think you would have looked horrible whacking them.
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That sounds like the voice of reason to me. After having this pregamed, we had one of these in the game. I (U2) had the travel and (U1) had the foul. He came to me and we determined that the player was pushed from behind (I was straight-lined on the contact) and caused the travel. (R) kinda rolled his eyes at us, but we got the call right. [Edited by Mike Burns on Feb 13th, 2003 at 04:01 PM] |
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Thanks Brian...I am finishing up my 10th season, heading to the 4A tourney...........Still havin fun........
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