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The_Rookie Sat Jun 25, 2011 01:50pm

Help on 3 man
 
Have my first 3 Man in 2 hours and need some quick basics on proper rotation and when to rotate...Thanks!

ontheway Sat Jun 25, 2011 02:01pm

there is alot too 3 man mechanics too much to learn in a couple hours but basically when your the lead ( on the endline) and the ball crosses the FT lane line extended you need to start the rotation close down alittle or completly rotate over. also one of my biggest faults with three man is getting stuck behind the center yes for some reason i find myself stacked either just infront or just behind the center

SAK Sat Jun 25, 2011 03:04pm

Referee the game, fill in when a rotation is kicked. Look at a diagram of your PCA and officiate with in that area.

Freddy Sat Jun 25, 2011 04:31pm

Oh my. Doing a 3 man game with that question needing to be answered? No prior study of the mechanics? No camps where instruction was given and dozens of camp games were done under the eyes of helpful clinicians? No study of available online video resources? Seriously, I hope this is a scrimmage or a game that doesn't ready count for anything. I sincerely wish you the best, but......
Let us know how it went.

Adam Sat Jun 25, 2011 05:57pm

Tell your partners it's your first 3-man game. They need to know you're new at it, so they don't rotate you into confusion.
Then, worry about two things.
1. Triangle coverage. Two on one side, one on the other side forming the third point of the triangle.
2. Just call your game.

Everything else can be adjusted during dead balls.

grunewar Sun Jun 26, 2011 08:14am

Inquiring minds want to know.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Rookie (Post 768562)
Have my first 3 Man in 2 hours and need some quick basics on proper rotation and when to rotate...Thanks!

So, how'd it go? Lessons learned? Things you liked? Things you didn't like? Areas to concentrate/work on next time?

What advice would YOU now give a newbie doing his first 3-person game?

tref Sun Jun 26, 2011 10:12pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by ontheway (Post 768565)
one of my biggest faults with three man is getting stuck behind the center yes for some reason i find myself stacked either just infront or just behind the center

I get being stacked in front of the C. You didn't go to L, but how in the world do you get stacked behind him??
Sounds like the crew has no partner awareness...

In 3 person when running from T-L if you're looking back at your closest matchup & where the ball is, look for some stripes as well. If someone is behind you, you are the new L... if not, slow down because you are STILL the C.

You're either ball watching or not recognizing rotations.

26 Year Gap Sun Jun 26, 2011 10:17pm

He hasn't checked back in. You know what THAT means. Yep. OVERTIME!:D

The_Rookie Sun Jun 26, 2011 10:23pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 768703)
So, how'd it go? Lessons learned? Things you liked? Things you didn't like? Areas to concentrate/work on next time?

What advice would YOU now give a newbie doing his first 3-person game?

UPDATE: Game went well worked with 2 Vets and they basically told me to follow their lead...I close down and cross the key when the ball position dictated and never rotated on the shot across the key. Refereed my competive match ups as normal and my trail work was similar to 2 man as well. Lot easier to have 3 man..What a HUGE Difference.

When we did pregame with each coach they said..great to see 3 man crew and vet said well he is a rookie so really 2 1/2 Men..Right Charlie Sheen :)

constable Mon Jun 27, 2011 05:20am

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Rookie (Post 768829)
UPDATE: Game went well worked with 2 Vets and they basically told me to follow their lead...I close down and cross the key when the ball position dictated and never rotated on the shot across the key. Refereed my competive match ups as normal and my trail work was similar to 2 man as well. Lot easier to have 3 man..What a HUGE Difference.

When we did pregame with each coach they said..great to see 3 man crew and vet said well he is a rookie so really 2 1/2 Men..Right Charlie Sheen :)


I have an issue with your partner saying that. To me that is throwing you under the bus preemptively.

If a coach said that to me with a rookie on the crew I'd respond with " ya, it's always good to work a 3 person game" or something like that.

Freddy Mon Jun 27, 2011 07:32am

Post-Game Review
 
Congratulations on surviving your first three-man (ok, "three person-") crew experience!
As this has hopefully whetted your appetite to do more, be sure to take every opportunity you can get to go to as many games as you can to observe good three-man crews in action. Also, look for a good three-man camp in your area to attend. Guys in our area who are that new to three-man would get eaten up by the coaches who know what they're looking for from a crew, so the very fact that you survived well seems to speak for your desire to do the best and advance. Some assignors, if you blow a three-man assignment as a newer official, will hesitate to assign you more in the future.
You bit off a big chunk of the proverbial apple and enjoyed the taste. Good job.

Raymond Mon Jun 27, 2011 07:35am

Quote:

Originally Posted by constable (Post 768852)
I have an issue with your partner saying that. To me that is throwing you under the bus preemptively.

....

You can't say that without knowing the type of reputation or relationship that official has with coaches.

That may be his way of saying "let the kid work and stay off his back".

grunewar Mon Jun 27, 2011 09:23am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 768877)
Congratulations on surviving your first three-man (ok, "three person-") crew experience!

He keeps at it, he won't be "The_Rookie" any longer! ;)

Adam Mon Jun 27, 2011 09:51am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 768878)
You can't say that without knowing the type of reputation or relationship that official has with coaches.

That may be his way of saying "let the kid work and stay off his back".

While I can't imagine ever saying this to a coach, and even the idea of it makes me cringe, I suppose it's not necessarily horrible depending on the circumstances.

1. It's summer ball.
2. Veteran official's familiarity with the coach.

JRutledge Mon Jun 27, 2011 11:24am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 768906)
While I can't imagine ever saying this to a coach, and even the idea of it makes me cringe, I suppose it's not necessarily horrible depending on the circumstances.

1. It's summer ball.
2. Veteran official's familiarity with the coach.

We have a lot of conversations during the summer we would never have other times. And this would never be something I would say, but it is possible this was rather and informal comment which it might work for that audience. Hard to say or know at this point.

Peace


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