Help on 3 man
 

Have my first 3 Man in 2 hours and need some quick basics on proper rotation and when to rotate...Thanks!

there is alot too 3 man mechanics too much to learn in a couple hours but basically when your the lead ( on the endline) and the ball crosses the FT lane line extended you need to start the rotation close down alittle or completly rotate over. also one of my biggest faults with three man is getting stuck behind the center yes for some reason i find myself stacked either just infront or just behind the center

Referee the game, fill in when a rotation is kicked. Look at a diagram of your PCA and officiate with in that area.

Oh my. Doing a 3 man game with that question needing to be answered? No prior study of the mechanics? No camps where instruction was given and dozens of camp games were done under the eyes of helpful clinicians? No study of available online video resources? Seriously, I hope this is a scrimmage or a game that doesn't ready count for anything. I sincerely wish you the best, but......
Let us know how it went.

Tell your partners it's your first 3-man game. They need to know you're new at it, so they don't rotate you into confusion.
Then, worry about two things.
1. Triangle coverage. Two on one side, one on the other side forming the third point of the triangle.
2. Just call your game.

Everything else can be adjusted during dead balls.

Inquiring minds want to know.....
 

So, how'd it go? Lessons learned? Things you liked? Things you didn't like? Areas to concentrate/work on next time?

What advice would YOU now give a newbie doing his first 3-person game?

I get being stacked in front of the C. You didn't go to L, but how in the world do you get stacked behind him??
Sounds like the crew has no partner awareness...

In 3 person when running from T-L if you're looking back at your closest matchup & where the ball is, look for some stripes as well. If someone is behind you, you are the new L... if not, slow down because you are STILL the C.

You're either ball watching or not recognizing rotations.

He hasn't checked back in. You know what THAT means. Yep. OVERTIME!:D

UPDATE: Game went well worked with 2 Vets and they basically told me to follow their lead...I close down and cross the key when the ball position dictated and never rotated on the shot across the key. Refereed my competive match ups as normal and my trail work was similar to 2 man as well. Lot easier to have 3 man..What a HUGE Difference.

When we did pregame with each coach they said..great to see 3 man crew and vet said well he is a rookie so really 2 1/2 Men..Right Charlie Sheen :)

I have an issue with your partner saying that. To me that is throwing you under the bus preemptively.

If a coach said that to me with a rookie on the crew I'd respond with " ya, it's always good to work a 3 person game" or something like that.

Post-Game Review
 

Congratulations on surviving your first three-man (ok, "three person-") crew experience!
As this has hopefully whetted your appetite to do more, be sure to take every opportunity you can get to go to as many games as you can to observe good three-man crews in action. Also, look for a good three-man camp in your area to attend. Guys in our area who are that new to three-man would get eaten up by the coaches who know what they're looking for from a crew, so the very fact that you survived well seems to speak for your desire to do the best and advance. Some assignors, if you blow a three-man assignment as a newer official, will hesitate to assign you more in the future.
You bit off a big chunk of the proverbial apple and enjoyed the taste. Good job.

You can't say that without knowing the type of reputation or relationship that official has with coaches.

That may be his way of saying "let the kid work and stay off his back".

He keeps at it, he won't be "The_Rookie" any longer! ;)

While I can't imagine ever saying this to a coach, and even the idea of it makes me cringe, I suppose it's not necessarily horrible depending on the circumstances.

1. It's summer ball.
2. Veteran official's familiarity with the coach.

We have a lot of conversations during the summer we would never have other times. And this would never be something I would say, but it is possible this was rather and informal comment which it might work for that audience. Hard to say or know at this point.

Peace

Good thing you didn't wait until the last minute. :rolleyes:

One of the 1st things I learned is don't call it "3-man",
it's "3-person"

I know female officials who still call it '3-man'.

This is kind of a silly issue for most people. Do players call "Man to Man" defense, "Person to Person?" ;)

Peace

"A rose by any other name would smell as sweet" (Billy Shakespeare)
 

This is kind of easy to settle. What does the NFHS call it in their mechanics manual? What does the NCAA call it? For those that don't use any particular manual, what does your local association call it? IAABO calls it "Crew Of Three".

The CCA says "Crew of Three" as well. My state calls it "Three Person."

My point is if someone says "3 Man" I do not think we need get excited about it. After all most 3 Person crews have 3 men working it. Very few women at least at the HS level. College that might be a different story.

Peace

Are they sexist? :D

Can't We All Just Get Along?
 

This is getting a little out of hand. Look. The original classical languages all had easy-to-distinguish terms for male, female, and both when intended in a general sense. It's only when the English, probably under the influence of the French (which explains all the inconvenient oddities of the English language anyway), settled on what words to use, they chose a word which can be meant both generally and specifically. Thus "man" can mean "male" or "human being."
Therefore, from this time forward, all reference on this discussion board to officials' crews who are either male or female or both male and female (that could open up a whole different thread) shall be as such:
"Two Human Being Crew", or
"Three Human Being Crew".
There. That ought to settle it.
After it catches on here it ought to show up in the Officials' Manual in a year or so.

Really?
 

I wouldn't call one comment, from one person out of hand. ;)

He's just stirring the pot.......

From The Blue Backed Speller ...
 

Man (Noun): A human regardless of sex or age; a person.

One of the first things I learned was to follow the pivot foot.

Busted.
 

Shucks, I didn't know I was that transparent.
Oh, I know. I forgot to add the ;)

I don't think you want a guy like Freddy stirring the pot if you know what I mean.