Is this a Backcourt Violation?
A-1 inbounds the ball to A-2 who is heavily contested by B-2 near the division line. A-2, in the FC, tips the ball away from the coverage and the ball goes into the BC. A-2 is the first to grab the ball. Is this BC?
I have read and reread 9.9.3 and am still unclear. Is this considered to be part of the "Throw-in exception"? |
Depends... where did the throw-in originate?
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After a made basket, A-1 inbounds the ball to A-2 who is heavily contested by B-2 near the division line. A-2, in the FC, tips the ball away from the coverage and the ball goes into the BC. A-2 is the first to grab the ball.
Is that a controlled tip by A2? Or can no tip be ruled possesion like a tapped rebound that goes into the b/c? I cannot think of a time where I've seen a b/c endline throw-in go into the f/c & tipped into the b/c by the offense. |
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1) TC 2) Ball in FC 3) A last to touch before ball goes to BC 4) A first to touch after ball goes to BC Did we have all of those under THE CURRENT rules? How about under the NEW rules? Do we need an "exception?" |
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Right, right.
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why are we worried
Why do we care about player possesion on this play? It has no bearing on the FC status of the ball. I believe in the OP we have a violation under the new rules, unless there is an exception granted, and I HOPE there is.
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Rule of thumb; with .2 seconds left would you have allowed such a tap to score? If so, no control. |
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tref is questioning whether A2 had possession and threw the ball into the backcourt based upon the OP's wording. |
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IMO posting what is to be done under "old" rules may lead to confusion. IF there are "new" rules in place then we officiate to the rules being administered.
I know that what is happening here is the old is being used as a comparison for the new. |
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There is no such thing as a controlled tip or tap, by rule. A "controlled tip" has no bearing on any play in determining control. Player control is established by HOLDING or DRIBBLING a LIVE ball INBOUNDS. That's it. That's the only way. So a tip or tap, even if intentionally directed, does not establish control. Ever. If you rule that A2 caught the ball before directing into the backcourt, then that's a different story and there is player control. If the new rule is written to match the NCAA rule, with the same exceptions, then the play in the original post is legal. If they simply add "and during a throw-in" to the definition of team control, then the play in question is a violation. |
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