Who Let The Dogs Out ???

[Rich]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I love working overtime games. The more overtime periods, the better. There's nothing more exciting. I have constantly "gotten on" Mark Padgett for claiming that he doesn't like working overtime games. I really don't believe him when he makes that claim. I wish he would stop, especially if he's pulling our legs. I will occasionally joke with junior varsity officials for "letting" their game go into overtime, holding up the start of our varsity game, but it's a joke between officials, I would never joke about this with outsiders.

Personally, I would allow all subvarsity games to end in ties with no OT possible. No, I'm not kidding.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Personally, I would allow all subvarsity games to end in ties with no OT possible. No, I'm not kidding.

Werd!

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by richmsn

personally, i would allow all subvarsity games to end in ties with no ot possible. No, i'm not kidding.

+infinity!

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

I would allow all subvarsity games to end in ties with no OT possible.

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

+Infinity!

See what I mean. Is Mark Padgett a "get in, get out, get paid" type of official, doing it only for the money, or is he "yanking our chain"? Only his hairdresser knows for sure. I guess that it's part of his mystique. After all of his games, the fans, players, and coaches all ask, "Who was that masked official?".

By the way, there's nothing wrong with actually being a "get in, get out, get paid" type of official. Some officials are just in it for the money. It's a job. It's how they provide for their themselves, and their family. It pays the bills. It's just that athletic directors, coaches, players, and fans might think that if a few offcials are like that, then many officials are like that, when it's actually a much smaller percentage.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

See what I mean. Is Mark Padgett a "get in, get out, get paid" type of official, doing it only for the money, or is he "yanking our chain"? Only his hairdresser knows for sure. I guess that it's part of his mystique. After all of his games, the fans, players, and coaches all ask, "Who was that masked official?".

By the way, there's nothing wrong with actually being a "get in, get out, get paid" type of official. Some officials are just in it for the money. It's a job. It's how they provide for their themselves, and their family. It pays the bills. It's just that athletic directors, coaches, players, and fans might think that if a few offcials are like that, then many officials are like that, when it's actually a much smaller percentage.

Mark does it because it gets him attention. That's it, that's the list.

And Rich's reasoning has nothing to do with get in get out. As a varsity official, he'd rather see that process because it keeps his own games on schedule; which would also be better for the fans and ADs.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Mark does it because it gets him attention. That's it, that's the list.

And Rich's reasoning has nothing to do with get in get out. As a varsity official, he'd rather see that process because it keeps his own games on schedule; which would also be better for the fans and ADs.

There is nobody involved that wants late running preliminary games. I'm guessing MAYBE the JV coach cares. Maybe.

Last year, I was standing in the corner with both teams (small gym) waiting for the JV game to finish so I can stand across from the table for 20 minutes watching girls not dunk. Both coaches were there and were talking to each other and to us. You should've heard them and the varsity players as the game went to OT and then to 2OT. The visiting coach openly rooted for one of her school's players to miss a free throw so the game would be over. We were all laughing at that.

As it is, these games are scheduled very tightly so that the busses don't have to leave the schools any earlier. JV (called Sophomore games at some schools/conferences) games start anywhere from 5:50PM to 6PM around here and are played on the varsity court. It takes everything going perfectly well to start on time. A whistle-happy JV crew will push a game back 15 minutes, at least. An OT will push it back at least 15-25 minutes. 2OT? We started at 8:15PM.

The only recognition the JVs get is a one line entry at the bottom of the boxscore. It'll say something like "JV: Washington won." I've never seen standings printed or statistics kept and at many schools, kids will be held out of a quarter or two so they can play some time in the varsity game (OTs do not affect this rule as OT is considered part of the 4th quarter for purposes of that rule).

So why not end in a tie, then? It's not only the officials who think that way -- it's the coaches, players, administrators, game day staff, officials, security, custodians, etc.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

There is nobody involved that wants late running preliminary games. I'm guessing MAYBE the JV coach cares. Maybe.

Last year, I was standing in the corner with both teams (small gym) waiting for the JV game to finish so I can stand across from the table for 20 minutes watching girls not dunk. Both coaches were there and were talking to each other and to us. You should've heard them and the varsity players as the game went to OT and then to 2OT. The visiting coach openly rooted for one of her school's players to miss a free throw so the game would be over. We were all laughing at that.

As it is, these games are scheduled very tightly so that the busses don't have to leave the schools any earlier. JV (called Sophomore games at some schools/conferences) games start anywhere from 5:50PM to 6PM around here and are played on the varsity court. It takes everything going perfectly well to start on time. A whistle-happy JV crew will push a game back 15 minutes, at least. An OT will push it back at least 15-25 minutes. 2OT? We started at 8:15PM.

Well said Rich. Were you at my 2OT JV Game last yr? The V Officials, who also watched from the corner, didn't like the delay, but they said we did a really good job managing the game.

Originally Posted by RichMSN

The only recognition the JVs get is a one line entry at the bottom of the boxscore.

They don't even get this much recognition around here.

[Adam]

I never check the box scores, so I don't know if they get mentioned here.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

The only recognition the JVs get is a one line entry at the bottom of the boxscore. It'll say something like "JV: Washington won." I've never seen standings printed or statistics kept and at many schools, kids will be held out of a quarter or two so they can play some time in the varsity game (OTs do not affect this rule as OT is considered part of the 4th quarter for purposes of that rule).

They do not get that much mention here or the game. No one cares about those games but the participants and maybe their parents. Just a fact of the business.

Originally Posted by RichMSN

So why not end in a tie, then? It's not only the officials who think that way -- it's the coaches, players, administrators, game day staff, officials, security, custodians, etc.

I do agree with you there.

Peace