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Victor74 · #1 (**permalink**) Mon Apr 18, 2011, 10:01pm

They call the whining playing with emotion. I'm so sick and tired of hearing about letting the players play with emotion. They can play with emotion. How about the players learn to control their emotions a little better?

APG · #2 (**permalink**) Mon Apr 18, 2011, 10:25pm

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Originally Posted by Victor74

They call the whining playing with emotion. I'm so sick and tired of hearing about letting the players play with emotion. They can play with emotion. How about the players learn to control their emotions a little better?

Go to phrase for all announcers at all levels of play regardless of what sport. Pretty sure it's in the announcer's book of really "good" announcing. Even heard a TNT crew last night suggest an official to physically look the other way to avoid having to call one after they assessed one to a player. Literally made me do a double take after hearing that one.

Adam · #3 (**permalink**) Mon Apr 18, 2011, 10:36pm

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Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

Go to phrase for all announcers at all levels of play regardless of what sport. Pretty sure it's in the announcer's book of really "good" announcing. Even heard a TNT crew last night suggest an official to physically look the other way to avoid having to call one after they assessed one to a player. Literally made me do a double take after hearing that one.

I didn't watch the Celtics/Knicks game, but I about vomited in my car when I heard Greenberg saying the official shouldn't have called the offensive foul on Melo late in the game. Essentially, yeah, he gave him a forearm shiver but it shouldn't have been called at that point in the game.

APG · #4 (**permalink**) Mon Apr 18, 2011, 10:47pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I didn't watch the Celtics/Knicks game, but I about vomited in my car when I heard Greenberg saying the official shouldn't have called the offensive foul on Melo late in the game. Essentially, yeah, he gave him a forearm shiver but it shouldn't have been called at that point in the game.

That was an easy offensive foul call...Carmelo used a "swim" move in the process of getting post position when the defense was in a legal position. Monty McCutchen was all over it as lead. The ole "let the players decide the game/can't call that at the end of the game" is probably chapter one of the Announcer's Book of Really "Good" Announcing ©.

I do admit that sometimes I enjoy listening to the announcers of a team who feel like they were "wronged" on such obvious calls. Stupid can be very entertaining!

JRutledge · #5 (**permalink**) Mon Apr 18, 2011, 11:53pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I didn't watch the Celtics/Knicks game, but I about vomited in my car when I heard Greenberg saying the official shouldn't have called the offensive foul on Melo late in the game. Essentially, yeah, he gave him a forearm shiver but it shouldn't have been called at that point in the game.

ESPN people have been complaining about that call all day. And they said "You cannot make a call in that situation." Or, "Let the players decide the game." I love the last one.

Peace

APG · #6 (**permalink**) Tue Apr 19, 2011, 12:10am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge

ESPN people have been complaining about that call all day. And they said "You cannot make a call in that situation." Or, "Let the players decide the game." I love the last one.

Peace

Just saw the play again...I'm not even sure what the controversy is here. I saw the play in real time and had the same call. *shrug*

ESPN has been known to make controversy out of nothing...just another case.

Victor74 · #7 (**permalink**) Tue Apr 19, 2011, 02:11pm

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Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

Go to phrase for all announcers at all levels of play regardless of what sport. Pretty sure it's in the announcer's book of really "good" announcing. Even heard a TNT crew last night suggest an official to physically look the other way to avoid having to call one after they assessed one to a player. Literally made me do a double take after hearing that one.

I heard that one to and almost fell off my chair. Didn't surprise me. But let's say Bill Kennedy looked the other way and someone punched the other player. Then they'd be screaming how the official right there didn't see it because he wasn't looking. Looking would be doing his job. Just amazing

BillyMac · #8 (**permalink**) Tue Apr 19, 2011, 05:51pm

This morning, the drive time sportscaster, on our 50,000 watt flamethrower, suggested that the NBA use four officials. Two to act as the center and trail, moving up, and down, the court with the players. And two to just stand on the endlines as non-moving leads. He suggested this after talking about the missed basket interference call in the Nuggets game (?) and some "bad" calls at the end of the Knicks Celtics game.

He also mentioned a bad call in this year's NCAA tournament. He talked about a flagrant foul being assessed when the replay showed a legally blocked shot. I don't remember any such play? Does anybody remember.

APG · #9 (**permalink**) Tue Apr 19, 2011, 06:02pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac

This morning, the drive time sportscaster, on our 50,000 watt flamethrower, suggested that the NBA use four officials. Two to act as the center and trail, moving up, and down, the court with the players. And two to just stand on the endlines as non-moving leads. He suggested this after talking about the missed basket interference call in the Nuggets game (?) and some "bad" calls at the end of the Knicks Celtics game.

He also mentioned a bad call in this year's NCAA tournament. He talked about a flagrant foul being assessed when the replay showed a legally blocked shot. I don't remember any such play? Does anybody remember.

To your last point...I don't remember anyone mentioning this...I would have for sure put that play up (on a side note, I'm been able to get my account and most videos back up...hopefully the rest later).

As to having four officials...the missed BI call would not have been helped by going to that system. All three officials were in their proper positions...it was just a no call incorrect. What people don't seem to realize, is that BI/goaltending calls can be quite difficult at times to call in real time. To be honest, when I first say the play, I didn't have anything, but it was an obvious miss on replay. The offensive foul call in the New York v. Boston game also wouldn't have been "helped" having four officials. The lead official (Monty McCutchen) was in great position to see the play, and it was properly adjudicated. I don't remember any other calls from the end of that game.

JugglingReferee · #10 (**permalink**) Tue Apr 19, 2011, 07:59pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac

This morning, the drive time sportscaster, on our 50,000 watt flamethrower, suggested that the NBA use four officials. Two to act as the center and trail, moving up, and down, the court with the players. And two to just stand on the endlines as non-moving leads. He suggested this after talking about the missed basket interference call in the Nuggets game (?) and some "bad" calls at the end of the Knicks Celtics game.

He also mentioned a bad call in this year's NCAA tournament. He talked about a flagrant foul being assessed when the replay showed a legally blocked shot. I don't remember any such play? Does anybody remember.

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