Need some help on an NCAA rulling

stripes · #1 (**permalink**) Mon Dec 16, 2002, 01:09pm

I don't have my rule book with me, but I need to know where the reference for "hard" fouls is found.

Thanks.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. · #2 (**permalink**) Mon Dec 16, 2002, 01:15pm

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Originally posted by stripes
I don't have my rule book with me, but I need to know where the reference for "hard" fouls is found.

Thanks.

I do not have my rules books in front of me either, but if you go to Rule 4 (I am not certain which Section and Article) and find the definition for an Intentional Foul, you will find the "hard" foul reference for which you are looking.

kmref · #3 (**permalink**) Mon Dec 16, 2002, 01:21pm

That rule changed a few years ago. You could call a hard foul and there was a mechanic for it. It is no longer called a hard foul, but rather an intentional foul.

stripes · #4 (**permalink**) Mon Dec 16, 2002, 01:22pm

I appreciate the feedback, MTD, Sr., but I went to the NCAA website and can find no mention of the hard fould as part of the intentional. I looked at rule 4-26 art 6. If anyone else knows somewhere else or something I'm missing, I would appreciate it.

stripes · #5 (**permalink**) Mon Dec 16, 2002, 01:28pm

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Originally posted by kmref
That rule changed a few years ago. You could call a hard foul and there was a mechanic for it. It is no longer called a hard foul, but rather an intentional foul.

Is that the reference to excessive contact while playing the ball? That would be my interpretation.

rockyroad · #6 (**permalink**) Mon Dec 16, 2002, 01:42pm

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Originally posted by stripes
[BIs that the reference to excessive contact while playing the ball? That would be my interpretation. [/B]

Yes...the "excessive contact" ruling was added several years ago and the mechanic is the intentional foul signal and then bring the crossed arms down to waist level...I don't know of any "hard foul" terminology anywhere in the NCAA book...

stripes · #7 (**permalink**) Mon Dec 16, 2002, 01:49pm

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Originally posted by rockyroad

Yes...the "excessive contact" ruling was added several years ago and the mechanic is the intentional foul signal and then bring the crossed arms down to waist level...I don't know of any "hard foul" terminology anywhere in the NCAA book... [/QUOTE]

That mechanic, IIRC, is the one for the "hard foul" which no longer exists. That mechanic is no longer found in the rule book.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. · #8 (**permalink**) Mon Dec 16, 2002, 10:43pm

As I said in my original posting, I did not have my rules books in front of me. At the correct term is "excessive contact" as opposed to "a hard foul." And the "excessive contact" is part of the intentional foul definition.

stripes · #9 (**permalink**) Tue Dec 17, 2002, 10:59am

Thanks to all, I got the info I needed.