"How can you call a T on us for dunking in warmups,Ref?The guy that we had last game warned us first!"

Were you serious,Chuck?It's no problem if everyone in your association has the "blind eye".It is a problem if it's being called differently,game-to-game,by different officials.Nobody then knows what to expect on any given night.JMO

JR-
"Geez ref last game I was not called for a player control foul, the defender was called for a block."

We are all individuals, we all have the same rules...but we do not all have the same judgement or interpretation of the rules.....I am not saying I agree with Chuck....But each one of us is an individual and each situation is unique...no matter how common something may appear....It is not going to be called the same by everyone.... Just look at the jump stop or the attempted jump stop!

AK ref SE

Alaska,there's no judgement or interpretation involved in calling pre-game dunks.You either call it or you don't call it.Consistency is the problem,not judgement.The point that I was trying to make was that teams have to know what to expect.If half of your officials call a certain type of jump stop legal,and the other half call it a violation-the player using that jump stop won't have a clue as to what they can do or not do.Neither will their coach-or the other coach.

That's a valid point, and as someone else mentioned, if there was a "bring the house down" dunk that simply could not be ignored, then I would probably call the T. But generally speaking, I really am more concerned with uniforms, jewelry, etc than looking at the rim during warmups. My earlier comment was half-joking; but only half. If a kid dunks and I don't see it, nothing happens. If a kid comes out for the jump ball with his chain and illegal t-shirt, then the game is delayed.

Chuck

Excuse my ignorance, but why is #8 an illegal number?
I referee FIBA rules and #8 is legal.

Two hands
 

Any number that you can't make with one hand is illegal in NFHS (that would be a '5' for most of the population). 0 and 00 are also legal, however, you can only have one or the other.

Mregor

I know this is a recent rule change, but I just don't follow the logic in this. For example, why then can you have both 1 and 11, 2 and 22, 3 and 33, 4 and 44, and 5 and 55 on the same team?
Is it somehow more confusing to the poor officials to have both zero and double zero?

No, it's confusing to the poor computers that keep the stats. To a computer 1 and 11 are different numbers, but 0 and 00 are the same number (they're both just zero).

Chuck

Re: Two hands
 

There was a big league pitcher (for the Dodgers maybe?) recently who had 6 fingers on his pitching hand. Gave his pitches wierd movement. Then there's Mordecai "Three Fingers" Brown. Then there's anybody who chops down their Christmas tree immediately after the office Christmas party. . .

As the father of a 7-year old, I've seen Monsters, Inc. several times. And one of the LOL moments the first time I watched it was when an off-stage crew hand holds up one hand with all his fingers extended and says, "Ok, we're on in 7. . .6. . ." It was just a great visual gag. Very funny. If he reffed, the teams could use numbers up to 77!

Chuck

Great explanation Chuck! I never thought of that.
Funny, though, that they figured it would be easier to change the rule than to change the programming in the stat computers.

Sure it does. The coach is responsible for his players before the game begins as well as after the game starts. The coach should be telling the players not to dunk. If they do and he's seat-belted, I bet it doesn't happen again. Besides, a coach can perform his/her duties just as well sitting as strolling.

Z

Re: Two hands
 

I sure hope we never have a four-fingered ref for my college team - some of our best players (men's and women's) have the digit five somewhere in their number. :p

And, while we're on the topic of people with a "different" number of fingers - My name is Intingo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die!

Re: Re: Two hands
 

Seems to me, you should be wanting four-fingered refs. They could never report a foul on the players with 5's in their numbers!!

Stop saying that!!

Re: Re: Re: Two hands
 

Yes, but someone had posted that any number that couldn't be flashed by hand was illegal. It's really not fun to start a game with a bunch of technical fouls.

..and then there are international teams..
 

Today I was working a tournament here in Tx that had a team from Mexico playing and they had some illegal numbers like 9, 6, 19, etc.... but I guess they play by FIBA rules down there, correct?