2011 Tournament Discussion Redux

[jophyal]

I like the lack of reading comprehension comment... I can't speak for everyone in this site but 15 pages is hard to keep up with. My points were not as succinct as you experts who dominate this site. I am just looking to grow. That being said, again, I have not anyone bring up the mechanic of tossing the ball to player on endline. I was taught to hand the ball to the player. Who tosses the ball and who hands it to inbounding player?

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

But you were giving a +1 to a post that, what, says he should have come out and announced his error a la Jim Joyce?

Or are you agreeing that people here were hiding behind the old 80% rule.

I found both comments to indicate a lack of reading comprehension; or he just skimmed the entire thread before commenting.

I had a call in my most recent game on a 10 second violation. There was a simultaneous whistle from the lead near the offensive team's bench. A time out was requested. And granted. (In the old days, it would have been too late. But, only players could request one back then. And I do not remember any instances of the other official granting one at 9 seconds. How would they know if they are watching their primary?) In any event, we went with the time out call as I am positive the request came before my 10th arm swing. Bottom line, if you are having trouble inbounding, don't wait till you are near the end of the count to request a TO.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by biz

Adams' explaination does not go into the mechanics of making the 5-second call without 5 arm swings.

Interesting point except that his arm with up halfway through the 5th swing....which is exactly the point the violation should occur. The big problem was that his first swing occur much less than 1 second after the player got the ball....that is where they player was shorted.