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24 is too short for that age group. Just my 2 cents.
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Old Fri Mar 18, 2011, 09:06am
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24 is too short for that age group. Just my 2 cents.
OK, how's about this - would you be in favor of a shot clock at all to be implemented acorss the Fed?
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OK, how's about this - would you be in favor of a shot clock at all to be implemented acorss the Fed?
Until the economy turns around, I don't see this happening any time soon.
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OK, how's about this - would you be in favor of a shot clock at all to be implemented acorss the Fed?
I think this is another solution in search of a problem. People want to implement this to combat what, two games a year per official. And they consistently use, as evidence, the results of 1 or 2 games nationwide per year that are aberrant.

It's just not a consistent problem, even if you consider it a problem.
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OK, how's about this - would you be in favor of a shot clock at all to be implemented acorss the Fed?
NEGATIVE...I have college games where shot clock operation is a problem, can you imagine it at the high school level?
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I think this is another solution in search of a problem. People want to implement this to combat what, two games a year per official. And they consistently use, as evidence, the results of 1 or 2 games nationwide per year that are aberrant.

It's just not a consistent problem, even if you consider it a problem.
I think if there is a choice between more games with 3 on a crew or a shot clock--and they are both 'expense' choices in the eyes of school budget directors--I am going with crews of 3 every single time.
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NEGATIVE...I have college games where shot clock operation is a problem, can you imagine it at the high school level?
At any level shot clock operation can be a problem, game clock operation can be a problem at any level.
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At any level shot clock operation can be a problem, game clock operation can be a problem at any level.
Shot clock operations are a lot more complicated than the scoreboard.
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Shot clock operations are a lot more complicated than the scoreboard.
It also depends on the person's experience & their maturity level as to how well they comprehend what needs to be done.

Depending on the scoreboard setup, I beg to differ as to which can be more complicated.

Ok so let's make everything simplistic & have FED adopt all NCAA Rules.
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It also depends on the person's experience & their maturity level as to how well they comprehend what needs to be done.

Depending on the scoreboard setup, I beg to differ as to which can be more complicated.

Ok so let's make everything simplistic & have FED adopt all NCAA Rules.
No matter how you slice it properly operating the shot clock is more difficult than the scoreboard. And it has nothing to do with the buttons, knobs, or switches. Has to do with rules.
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At any level shot clock operation can be a problem, game clock operation can be a problem at any level.
chseagle...on a side note:

Would you like a rule MANDATING that clock operators/scorebook keepers wear stripes/grays/uniform so that the officials can more readily see you at the table?

Remember...now the whole gym can see who the table officials are...
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chseagle...on a side note:

Would you like a rule MANDATING that clock operators/scorebook keepers wear stripes/grays/uniform so that the officials can more readily see you at the table?

Remember...now the whole gym can see who the table officials are...
It would make things easier to identify who should be at the table & who shouldn't.

During NWAACCs we had a Turquoise-like blue polo that we were asked to wear, & the scorer had on a striped garment.

During the last half of this season my family & I were wearing purple polos that identified us as game management.

During the 3A/4A Regionals last year, everyone was giving a bright neon green t-shirt that was game management.

As I see it, the easier to identify game management the better.
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chseagle...on a side note:

Would you like a rule MANDATING that clock operators/scorebook keepers wear stripes/grays/uniform so that the officials can more readily see you at the table?

Remember...now the whole gym can see who the table officials are...
Concerning making a rule MANDATORY, how about appendix 4.0 of the 2009-2011 Basketball Officials' Manual that talks about who should be selected as game management & the training they must go through?
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Concerning making a rule MANDATORY, how about appendix 4.0 of the 2009-2011 Basketball Officials' Manual that talks about who should be selected as game management & the training they must go through?
"It may be an honor to act as timer or scorer, but it's not an honor that should be passed around with each game."

"Above all, choose someone with plenty of poise, good judgement, a sense of impartiality..."

"Insist that your timer and scorer attend one of the state-sponsored rules and interpretation meetings and, if possible, an occasional meeting of a local officials' group."

"See that your timer and scorer are accorded the same courtesy and respect as that due the floor officials."
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OK, how's about this - would you be in favor of a shot clock at all to be implemented acorss the Fed?
Should be at least available via state adoption
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