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Old Wed Mar 30, 2011, 11:02pm
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... and another foul on the hail mary pass at the end where the Rutgers guy is basically knocked down. Earl Walton was the closest official on both those plays - but Higgins and Burr got all the vitriol. Not defending any of them - but Walton kind of got off scott-free in the court of public opinion IMO.
Burr should have positioned himself to be able to officiate the hail mary. Walton was where he was supposed be on the throw-in.
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Old Mon Apr 04, 2011, 06:36pm
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Burr should have positioned himself to be able to officiate the hail mary. Walton was where he was supposed be on the throw-in.


Who's got the first look on this play? Walton at the centre position. Burr could have been a bit closer on the play - but he's behind the last two players, pretty much where he should be. He could have been "wider" - but still probably would have been straightlined. In either case, Walton still would have had the better angle.

If you watch the replays, the Rutger's player clearly catches the ball outright, and then the St. John's player hacks/grabs him across the inside of his forearms, which causes him to lose the ball and fall backwards onto the floor. Foul.

If the catch had been "iffy" or the ball "up for grabs", I agree, a no-call is the way to go. But the pass was bang-on, and the Rutger's player timed his jump well enough to secure control of the pass. He deserves protection from excessive contact that takes away the play he just made.

I can live with the no-call on the rebound, given all the chaos off the missed FT. But that play on the pass should have been called.

Agree wholeheartedly that falling asleep on the OOB with 1.7 left was an egregious screw-up by Burr/Higgins. My original point was that it was the cherry on top of an extremely bad last minute or so.
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Who's got the first look on this play? Walton at the centre position. Burr could have been a bit closer on the play - but he's behind the last two players, pretty much where he should be. He could have been "wider" - but still probably would have been straightlined. In either case, Walton still would have had the better angle.

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There is absolutely no reason for Burr to be behind the last 2 players on this play. He could have officiated those 2 players from the free throw line extended. It would have given the crew inside and outside coverage of the attempted catch.

In the unlikely scenario that Rutgers would have attempted to throw a pass 90' to the deepest player Walton is more than fast enough to have made his way down the court to help and Burr would have only had to move 12-13' once he saw where the pass was going.
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... and Burr would have only had to move 12-13' once he saw where the pass was going.
But he is not capable of moving that distance in that amount of time.
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There is absolutely no reason for Burr to be behind the last 2 players on this play. He could have officiated those 2 players from the free throw line extended. It would have given the crew inside and outside coverage of the attempted catch.

In the unlikely scenario that Rutgers would have attempted to throw a pass 90' to the deepest player Walton is more than fast enough to have made his way down the court to help and Burr would have only had to move 12-13' once he saw where the pass was going.
Wow. I haven't seen these plays since a few days after it happened. Ahh, the anger at the time

In terms of Higgins' he was actually standing on the court while the FTs were being shot before the inbounds pass. All he did was back up to the sideline while staying 4-5 feet from the endline.

Burr broke the cardinal rule I was taught early on: there shouldn't be 94 feet (or 84 feet in H.S.) between me and the ball when I'm the L and the ball is being inbounded in the backcourt. If he's at the FT line extended he can see anything he needs to. It's not as though the Rutgers players would've been able to catch the pass and dribble unimpeded to the basket.

As for Walton, I actually thought he could've seen the player run out OOB with the ball since he's supposed to be responsible for the ball from arc to arc in that situation. At the very least at the time I felt he should've called a travel before (or as) the SJU player was going OOB which could've solved a lot.
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