On the FT rebound, Higgins was the lead and was standing about 4' INBOUNDS, a position several feet from where he should have been and one that took away any chance he had of helping across the lane with contact. As you said, the C/Walton was also way too high but still should have been able to see it from where he was. Either one could have got that one. There was no reason for Higgins to be that far inbounds. It was as if he was anticipating the make or the rebound to go the other way and wanted to get a head start since he's not so fast. If he has to do that to keep up, maybe its time to retire.

I didn't think the hail mary was a foul. That ball was up for grabs and both players with basically straight up for the ball. Just because one falls down doesn't mean the other one fouled him.

Burr should have had line coverage on the OOB with Higgins providing secondary coverage. Walton, being directly across the court, wouldn't have had any way to reliably tell if the player was inbounds or not.

So, yes, a foul was missed. Fouls are missed. The biggest gaff in that game was the player running OOB with the ball with no whistle....that one falls only on Burr & Higgins. Walton may have been able to save the day but it would have been difficult to see from his spot (which was a correct location form him to be).

I totally agree.

I will add that to me the rebounding situation was not necessarily a foul either. It looked to me like players fell down, not that anyone was necessarily pushed. And that is a judgment call and we make many of those people will disagree with from time to time.

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John Cahill
Vern Harris
Doug Showes

In the Finals tomorrow, good crew, should be a great game!

Cahill working back to back title games...not to shabby!

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Who's got the first look on this play? Walton at the centre position. Burr could have been a bit closer on the play - but he's behind the last two players, pretty much where he should be. He could have been "wider" - but still probably would have been straightlined. In either case, Walton still would have had the better angle.

If you watch the replays, the Rutger's player clearly catches the ball outright, and then the St. John's player hacks/grabs him across the inside of his forearms, which causes him to lose the ball and fall backwards onto the floor. Foul.

If the catch had been "iffy" or the ball "up for grabs", I agree, a no-call is the way to go. But the pass was bang-on, and the Rutger's player timed his jump well enough to secure control of the pass. He deserves protection from excessive contact that takes away the play he just made.

I can live with the no-call on the rebound, given all the chaos off the missed FT. But that play on the pass should have been called.

Agree wholeheartedly that falling asleep on the OOB with 1.7 left was an egregious screw-up by Burr/Higgins. My original point was that it was the cherry on top of an extremely bad last minute or so.

Actually, it's 3 out of the last 4. Not only did he work last year's game, but also the 2008 final in San Antonio.

Also, in 2009 he worked one of the semis.

2007 was the last time that he did not work one of the games at the Final Four.

There is absolutely no reason for Burr to be behind the last 2 players on this play. He could have officiated those 2 players from the free throw line extended. It would have given the crew inside and outside coverage of the attempted catch.

In the unlikely scenario that Rutgers would have attempted to throw a pass 90' to the deepest player Walton is more than fast enough to have made his way down the court to help and Burr would have only had to move 12-13' once he saw where the pass was going.

But he is not capable of moving that distance in that amount of time. :eek:

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Wow. I haven't seen these plays since a few days after it happened. Ahh, the anger at the time :)

In terms of Higgins' he was actually standing on the court while the FTs were being shot before the inbounds pass. All he did was back up to the sideline while staying 4-5 feet from the endline.

Burr broke the cardinal rule I was taught early on: there shouldn't be 94 feet (or 84 feet in H.S.) between me and the ball when I'm the L and the ball is being inbounded in the backcourt. If he's at the FT line extended he can see anything he needs to. It's not as though the Rutgers players would've been able to catch the pass and dribble unimpeded to the basket.

As for Walton, I actually thought he could've seen the player run out OOB with the ball since he's supposed to be responsible for the ball from arc to arc in that situation. At the very least at the time I felt he should've called a travel before (or as) the SJU player was going OOB which could've solved a lot.

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Just a question...how is Roger ayers in the final four? Thismis thensame guymwho missed the call of 6 players on the floor in the western KY game. What is the process in selecting officials...ismthere no reprimand for making an epic screw up

You're making a lot of assumptions here.

For a mistake in December?

And my 6 year old has better writing skills than this.

Yeah, I said it.

It makes it so hard to read. Annoying.

Looks like he was typing on his phone from study hall.

I heard through reliable sources that the entire crew lost one Sun Belt game.

Not too late to go.......
 

Just wondering what you think would have been an appropriate penalty?

His standard would ultimately suspend all officials and the players would be left playing the game calling their own fouls. :p

I missed the beginning of the game...who are the final three?

Verne Harris
Mark Whitehead
Mike Stuart

"...epic screwup...? I would venture to say that every official who has ever officiated a game has had a situation where they had 6 players on the floor. If you were an official, it would happen to you as well.

But to answer your question, the crew did lose a Sun Belt game. The NCAA doesn't have any involvment in that decision. One mistake does not a season or career destroy.

Yeah, yeah, I know you think he should have been burned at the stake. Sorry.

Pumpy25......Or....perhaps....Mr Adams saw more games worked by Ayers throughout the season....the ACC tournament....and the NCAA tournament leading up to the Final Four and felt...."Roger has really recovered from that error and has taken his season to another level and is refereeing at even a higher level then before.." hence Mr Adams and the others involved rewarding him with a Final Four assignment.

Just a thought to ponder...

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