Controversy in Nebraska

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

10 whole years and not selected to work the state tournament. Wow. What a travesty.

That person never said in either article linked that he should have been selected to work the state tournament.

[Jeremy Hohn]

We have to rank internally with our chapter a "top 25" list. Then the UIL will look at the list, and based off of either personal knowledge of ability, or feedback from coaches and evaulators they select 3 officials from each chapter to officiate first round games. From those games, the crews themselves are evaluated at the state tournament to see if they will officiate a final.
Many chapters are "one-and-done" at the state tournament due to what the evaluators feel is being called correctly.

As far as racial makeup, we are required to submit, an african-american, one anglo, and one hispanic or female. (Our chapter size didn't have a female official in our top 25, so we had a hispanic representative)

[Rich]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

That person never said in either article linked that he should have been selected to work the state tournament.

The inference is pretty strong, though. Both articles noted he's never worked one.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

The inference is pretty strong, though. Both articles noted he's never worked one.

That's on the reporter. None of the quotes from that person cause that inference on your part. "10 year official" and "no state tournament assignments" are facts the reporter chose to use in describing that person. Maybe that person was the only one who chose to give the reporter a quote. Or maybe he's speaking up b/c his best friend is a 15 year official who keeps getting overlooked for the state tournament. For all we know the 2 officials who did get selected were at the meeting also and gave quotes that the reporter chose not to use.

[tref]

Originally Posted by SAJ

All officials are guaranteed two games the first day, one game the second day, and one game the third day (Nebraska has 3rd place games).

Thats a lot of meaningful, high-profile games to work in a 3 day span! There could be more officials selected if they didn't have guys working 4 games in 3 days.

In Colorado, State Week in the 4 & 5A class is G/B Final 4 & C'Ship alternating Wednesday-Saturday. If selected to work those levels, you get 1 of those 12 games.

3A-1A is G/B Great 8 - C'Ship over 3 days Thursday-Saturday with a losers bracket as well. If selected to work those levels, you get 2 games with the same crew.

Basically, everyone gets to work the 1st week of post-season.
The 2nd week it becomes very competitive.
State Week, around 140 officials receive an invite to work. (5 year max out rule)
Spread the love NE!

[Jeremy Hohn]

Texas has a 3 year string, and then you are omitted for 3 I think.

We only work one game daily, but the State tournaments in Texas are separate weekends in the boys and girls divisions.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by tref

Thats a lot of meaningful, high-profile games to work in a 3 day span! There could be more officials selected if they didn't have guys working 4 games in 3 days.

I think many states do it that way. It is that way in Oregon. They're not going to pay travel and lodging for an official to work just one game and go home. They bring them in for a 4 day tourney and each official works 3-4 games.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I think many states do it that way. It is that way in Oregon. They're not going to pay travel and lodging for an official to work just one game and go home. They bring them in for a 4 day tourney and each official works 3-4 games.

I think WI gets it right in that regard. Everyone works one game. Now, if it wasn't the same faces year after year after year after year......

[Raymond]

In VA there are 40 quarterfinal games played throughout the state (5 classes for both Boys & Girls). Those game are worked by neutral crews in which all 3 officials come from the same association. Commissioners/assignors submit a list of names from their association to work State games to the VHSL and the VHSL puts together each of the crews for each quarterfinal game. (120 officials)

The state semi's (20 games/60 officials) and finals (10 games/30 officials) are all played at the Seigel Center in Richmond. The VHSL handpicks each crew member from the lists of officials provided by the commissioners. Some, but not a large number, officials who worked the quarterfinals also work at the Seigel Center. 90 officials work at the Seigel Center, no one works twice there.

2 years ago the VHSL started an Identification Camp for officials who have never worked a state game so that the VHSL can see new faces from all the associations. Our old commissioner refused to submit names for the first 2 camps. He had openly stated for years that he didn't want the VHSL telling him who to send to the state tourney.

[SperlingPE]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

That's years of being certified though, isn't it, instead of actual officiating experience? According to the article, that means these officials had to have at least five years of experience before they could get certified. Iow, the first and second year certified officials mentioned above have at least 6/7 years of experience and possibly more. That doesn't seem outrageous to me at all for someone doing first-round girls playoffs.

No you only need one year as registered, two years required at the approved level, before you can get to the certified level provided that you meet all test requirements and varsity contest requirements. A one year certified offical could have as little as 4 years of experience

[SAJ]

Originally Posted by SperlingPE

No you only need one year as registered, two years required at the approved level, before you can get to the certified level provided that you meet all test requirements and varsity contest requirements. A one year certified offical could have as little as 4 years of experience

not in Nebraska....need 2 years as Registered and then 2 years as Approved, before Certified.