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Jurassic Referee Wed Mar 09, 2011 09:13pm

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Originally Posted by mightyvol (Post 738322)
I was the one who started the Tim Higgins thread.

And you're proud of that? You're also the one who's crapped all over Ted Hillary, Steve Welmer and a few other officials in the course of your posting history.

What D1 conferences have you worked in?

26 Year Gap Wed Mar 09, 2011 09:33pm

A good share of bigjake's threads deal with concerns he has about certain officials. I think he wants to skenk their games from them.

Raymond Wed Mar 09, 2011 09:33pm

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Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 738298)
Adams seems like a jerk -- praising Burr (who as the trail missed this call) and essentially throwing the other two under the bus. What's really comical is that it sounds like he commented without even seeing the play.

I wouldn't say Adams is a jerk but I do agree that his comments were inappropriate. He should have "no commented" all 3 officials and saved his comments for Art Hyland.

VaTerp Wed Mar 09, 2011 09:34pm

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Originally Posted by Rufus (Post 738333)
Just saw the Rutgers coach who was interviewed and he made what I thought were the right noises (basically that a mistake was made, that he made several mistakes as did his players during the course of the game). Nice to see at least one person keeping his head during what many will be going nuts about.

I know Mike Rice very well from my coaching days. I was a varsity assistant and our HC had close ties to him and I coached at his Eastern Invitational camps for several summers.

In the few times I've seen him since I stopped coaching he's given me a hard time about my choice to officiate. But he is a very good coach and "gets it" when it comes to how hard officiating really is. I imagine he could be a handful during games b/c he likes to talk and drops F bombs in just about every sentence. But that's when he's talking to other coaches and just in general. I've never been around him when he's coaching a real game.

As for the crew, I have no clue how much impact this will have on their officiating futures. This was a pretty bad miss in a relatively big spotlight. We all miss calls but as John Adams said, "not officiating to the end of a game is unacceptable." It will be interesting to see the ramifications from this.

Larks Wed Mar 09, 2011 09:38pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 738334)
And you're proud of that? You're also the one who's crapped all over Ted Hillary, Steve Welmer and a few other officials in the course of your posting history.

What D1 conferences have you worked in?

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KJUmp Wed Mar 09, 2011 09:42pm

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Originally Posted by big jake (Post 738320)
What about the Big East? I would guess they might not be picked up next year in that conference?

What makes you think Art Hyland wouldn't want them working in the conference next year?

Raymond Wed Mar 09, 2011 09:53pm

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Originally Posted by big jake (Post 738355)
ovc, conf-usa, Missouri Valley. I also have a real job...........

Only 3 Jakes on Statsheet. Only one worked in the OVC. I doubt Dr. Jake Bell would take time from supervising the A-Sun to come here and bang on officials.

LeeBallanfant Wed Mar 09, 2011 09:55pm

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Originally Posted by VaTerp (Post 738347)
I know Mike Rice very well from my coaching days. I was a varsity assistant and our HC had close ties to him and I coached at his Eastern Invitational camps for several summers.

In the few times I've seen him since I stopped coaching he's given me a hard time about my choice to officiate. But he is a very good coach and "gets it" when it comes to how hard officiating really is. I imagine he could be a handful during games b/c he likes to talk and drops F bombs in just about every sentence. But that's when he's talking to other coaches and just in general. I've never been around him when he's coaching a real game.

As for the crew, I have no clue how much impact this will have on their officiating futures. This was a pretty bad miss in a relatively big spotlight. We all miss calls but as John Adams said, "not officiating to the end of a game is unacceptable." It will be interesting to see the ramifications from this.



Any one mention that the two coaches did not coach until the end of the game either.

LeeBallanfant Wed Mar 09, 2011 09:58pm

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Originally Posted by big jake (Post 738359)
name is not jake, but my jake is big

You do sound like a big prick.

Rich Wed Mar 09, 2011 09:59pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 738346)
I wouldn't say Adams is a jerk but I do agree that his comments were inappropriate. He should have "no commented" all 3 officials and saved his comments for Art Hyland.

I guess I wonder why Adams has an opinion at all. This is a *conference* matter and it would've been nice to see the conference supervisor interviewed instead of him. As long as officials are independent contractors and not employees of the NCAA, the only thing Adams can do is not hire these guys for the tourney.

What would you call someone who would make comments like this *without ever seeing the play or even a recording of the play*?

VaTerp Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:06pm

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Originally Posted by LeeBallanfant (Post 738357)
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Any one mention that the two coaches did not coach until the end of the game either.

I don't know but if you read Rice's comments he talked about mistakes that he, his staff, and his players made and did not take what would have been an easy route and focus on the officials.

And as an official, it does not matter one bit that the coaches didn't coach until the end of the game (whatever that means). Bottom line is that was a REALLY bad miss at the end of the game by this crew. We all miss calls but one of the main points that they guy who trained me stressed was to always officiate to the end of the game. It seems that this crew did not do that today.

Judtech Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:06pm

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Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 738361)
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What would you call someone who would make comments like this *without ever seeing the play or even a recording of the play*?

A Sports radio call in host?

APG Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:07pm

I don't feel it's inappropriate for the coordinator of men's basketball to have a comment on the play if asked.

Rich Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:09pm

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Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 738364)
I don't feel it's inappropriate for the coordinator of men's basketball to have a comment on the play if asked.

Without seeing the play? The right thing would've been to say, "I'll have a comment after I see the video."

APG Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:13pm

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Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 738366)
Without seeing the play? The right thing would've been to say, "I'll have a comment after I see the video."

Well you said it was a conference matter and you would have rather the conference supervisor have comment. While it's totally acceptable for him to comment, I don't see a problem with John Adams having an opinion (I'm talking in general here. If it's true that he didn't see the play first, and I have a hard time believe that, then he should have waited to comment).


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