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Old Wed Mar 09, 2011, 01:49pm
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Yes, really! It's the reporter's job!

The next time you report to the table that Team A gets two free throws, and they ask you which Team B player committed the foul, tell the table it's not a key fact.
Good grief. Apples and potatoes, dude. I know I said I was done, but this is just too stupid to ignore.

How many times does the fouling player get named in the newspaper article?

Your stupid analogy doesn't take into account the fact that it's no more pertinent than B1's foul in the first quarter, or B2's foul in the 2nd quarter, or A2's foul in the fourth. Are you going to bust the reporter's chops for not naming them as well? How about if he notes all the free throws that were taken by team A? Shouldn't he also say who the fouls were called on?
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Old Wed Mar 09, 2011, 01:59pm
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Your stupid analogy doesn't take into account the fact that it's no more pertinent than B1's foul in the first quarter, or B2's foul in the 2nd quarter, or A2's foul in the fourth.
Good lord, Snaqs, you're smarter than that.
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Old Wed Mar 09, 2011, 02:17pm
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Good lord, Snaqs, you're smarter than that.
No one besides you is questioning Snaqs' intelligence...pretty much all of the rest of us are questioning yours on this issue.

You keep saying the kid's name is a key fact and is pertinent, but you have failed to explain why it is a key fact. And the analogy you used does not work at all...
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Old Wed Mar 09, 2011, 02:24pm
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Allow me to weigh in here on the criminal aspect.

Speaking from my experience in law enforcement, charges would not be laid here.

A certain amount of violence is expected during a sport, especially a contact sport. Basketball is a contact sport.

Court systems are too overloaded now to begin with. If I laid that charge in my jurisdiction ( Ontario) it would most likely get laughed out of court. Actually, my supervisors wouldn't send the file to the courts.
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Old Wed Mar 09, 2011, 02:28pm
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Allow me to weigh in here on the criminal aspect.

Speaking from my experience in law enforcement, charges would not be laid here.

A certain amount of violence is expected during a sport, especially a contact sport. Basketball is a contact sport.

Court systems are too overloaded now to begin with. If I laid that charge in my jurisdiction ( Ontario) it would most likely get laughed out of court. Actually, my supervisors wouldn't send the file to the courts.
Frankly, I made the comment without having seen the video, and admitted I was making assumptions.
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Old Wed Mar 09, 2011, 02:35pm
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You keep saying the kid's name is a key fact and is pertinent, but you have failed to explain why it is a key fact.
Very well. How about this? It's newsworthy.

When's the last time any of us have seen -- not just have called, but have SEEN -- a flagrant foul? They're rare, and people are curious about that, particularly when such an act hospitalizes another.

This game did not take place behind closed doors. This was a public exhibition, and no-one's right to privacy is violated by someone reporting the facts.

Are you telling me that, when you hear of a player getting hurt by a reckless act, you don't want to know who did it?
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Old Wed Mar 09, 2011, 02:42pm
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Are you telling me that, when you hear of a player getting hurt by a reckless act, you don't want to know who did it?
Nope.

If I live in Kalamazoo, Michigan and a player get's injured in a game in Bethlahem, Pa., I may be curious about the circumstances, but I don't "want to", or "need to," know the 17 yr olds name. Maybe that's just me.
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Old Wed Mar 09, 2011, 02:44pm
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Nope.

If I live in Kalamazoo, Michigan and a player get's injured in a game in Bethlahem, Pa., I may be curious about the circumstances, but I don't "want to", or "need to," know the 17 yr olds name. Maybe that's just me.
Right, and even if I lived in Bethlahem, I wouldn't need to know. If I wanted to know, as has been pointed out, I could find out with about 20 seconds of extra keyboard work.
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Old Wed Mar 09, 2011, 02:51pm
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If I live in Kalamazoo, Michigan and a player get's injured in a game in Bethlahem, Pa., I may be curious about the circumstances, but I don't "want to", or "need to," know the 17 yr olds name.
I didn't say anything about age. The question I posed is about flagrant acts, regardless of level.

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Are you telling me that, when you hear of a player getting hurt by a reckless act, you don't want to know who did it?
Yep...that's what I'm telling you.

If I do want to know, I will ask someone who was there. I have no desire to read that in the paper.
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