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Old Fri Mar 04, 2011, 02:49pm
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Thanks. How'd you do that again?

Oh ya, I've got an attempt to injure. See ya buddy.
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Old Fri Mar 04, 2011, 02:52pm
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Perhaps that could be upgraded?

Fouling from behind when a player is on the ground is one thing, a two-handed shove in the back of an airborne player is clearly non-basketball.
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Old Fri Mar 04, 2011, 03:00pm
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Perhaps that could be upgraded?
That's what I'm thinking.

Intentional foul at first, but if a stretcher is required, I'm chatting with my partner(s) about a change to flagrant.

By the way, why isn't the Peru player identified in the article?

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Old Fri Mar 04, 2011, 03:05pm
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That's what I'm thinking.

Intentional foul at first, but if a stretcher is required, I'm chatting with my partner(s) about a change to flagrant.

By the way, why isn't the Peru player identified in the article?
No doubt! What else could we/they possibly be discussing as we wait for the medical assistance...
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Old Fri Mar 04, 2011, 03:16pm
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That's what I'm thinking.

Intentional foul at first, but if a stretcher is required, I'm chatting with my partner(s) about a change to flagrant.

By the way, why isn't the Peru player identified in the article?
Found it in 15 seconds with a google search.
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Old Fri Mar 04, 2011, 03:22pm
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Found it in 15 seconds with a google search.
Right, but that really wasn't my point.

I believe the author either a) simply forget to mention that little detail, or b) intentionally kept his name out, "because he's a kid." At the risk of turning this thread into something else, we either have bad journalism, or an ethical question where I don't agree with the author's (or editor's) choice.
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Old Fri Mar 04, 2011, 03:28pm
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Right, but that really wasn't my point.

I believe the author either a) simply forget to mention that little detail, or b) intentionally kept his name out, "because he's a kid." At the risk of turning this thread into something else, we either have bad journalism, or an ethical question where I don't agree with the author's (or editor's) choice.
Many newspapers withhold names of minors if there could be a pending action. This student may or may not be in that category. I do not have a problem with it either way. If somebody wants to find out who it is, it is pretty simple to do. They did not censor his uniform number. Mole hill.
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Old Fri Mar 04, 2011, 03:31pm
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The Peru player's Facebook profile is not available.
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To him, it is a mountain.
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Right, but that really wasn't my point.

I believe the author either a) simply forget to mention that little detail, or b) intentionally kept his name out, "because he's a kid." At the risk of turning this thread into something else, we either have bad journalism, or an ethical question where I don't agree with the author's (or editor's) choice.
So, assuming the perp is a juvenile, you're ok with publishing his name? I agree with the decision to leave it out.
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I agree with the decision to leave it out.
+1

If this is a "normal kid" he is mortified and bothered by his actions and their results, without it going more public than it already is.
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He may have "purposely" pushed an opponent or "intentionally" fouled an opponent, but I don't think he "purposely" injured an opponent.

Of course, I could be wrong too.
Like I said, I was making an assumption. I still say there was no real need to publish the kid's name. And Bainsey's 2nd post on this topic was just overkill.

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Right, but that really wasn't my point.

I believe the author either a) simply forget to mention that little detail, or b) intentionally kept his name out, "because he's a kid." At the risk of turning this thread into something else, we either have bad journalism, or an ethical question where I don't agree with the author's (or editor's) choice.
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I could see any out-of-pocket medical expenses being the object of a civil suit. I do not see criminal charges being brought.
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I still say there was no real need to publish the kid's name.
It's simple, really. A reporter's job is to report. To leave out a key fact is not doing his/her job.

As for the criminality of it all, I think Rich is dead on. If we start filing criminal charges on every excessive contact in a sporting event, I can't begin to imagine how that would change high school sports as we know it.
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That's what I'm thinking.

Intentional foul at first, but if a stretcher is required, I'm chatting with my partner(s) about a change to flagrant.

By the way, why isn't the Peru player identified in the article?
So you are going to wait to see if the fouled player is injured badly to decide whether to eject the fouling player?

Please tell me that is not what you meant.

On this play, I get together with my partners immediately, tell them we need to eject the fouling player, and then take that information to the table as the injured player is being tended to...no way do I wait to see how badly the kid is hurt. This is an immediate ejection.
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