Scorekeeping Error in Playoff Game

[Adam]

Originally Posted by SCalScoreKeeper

Our state has attempted to right this wrong by setting the two up for a rematch on Thursday night in White's gym as part of the state tournament.

Really? Because of 1 point in the first quarter?

"Don't like"

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Really? Because of 1 point in the first quarter?

"Don't like"

I actually don't trust the blogged accounting of the situation. Especially the part about the "threats" towards the scorers.

[SCalScoreKeeper]

Well-how else would you explain the two of them potentially meeting for a second time in five days with what happened the first time?

Here is an account of the situation from a fan sitting behind the table on a So Cal website:


: : The facts: the official book was done by an adult & assigned by CIF. The two unofficial books that are invited to sit at the score table, i thought to help in situations like this were 1 from Edison & 1 from Troy. The Troy unofficial score keeper immediately caught the mistake, player from Edison in middle of first quarter awarded 2 free throws missed first made second= 1pt, but was awarded 2 pts (watch the video on you tube it is very clear what happened, video is under Troy vs Edison). Troy unofficial score keeper went to Edison unofficial score keeper to check and Edison score keeper had same as troy. Troy unofficial score keeper then went to CIF official score keeper to advise on mistake and was treated rudely and told if he he did not go and sit down he would have him removed from arena. Troy unofficial score keeper then advised Troy coach Roger Anderson that him and edison score keeper had diff score than official scorekeeper & why. Coach Anderson immediately went to official score keeper to get fixed, no luck. They had meeting w/ refs but not w/ unofficial score keepers & made no change. Why have the unofficial score keepers there if their useless. I commend the edison unofficial score keeper for his honesty. Not only did both unofficials no the score was wrong they new why & how it happened. CIF was more worried about being wrong then getting it right. Why be rude to Troy unofficial score keeper. Both Troy & Edison score keeper should have been treated w total respect & used as a cross check & as a resource. Troy principle & ath dir also got involved. They wanted to protest or appeal but CIF has no process for this. Game decided by score keeper. Not Edisons fault they did nothing wrong their girls played like Champions also not Troys fault their girls did nothing wrong and also played like Champions. It's CIF's fault they made a mistake and should be "Fair & Honorable" & operate w/ integrity all things they preach and own up. Instead the Troy girls will pay the price, but lets be clear w/ the facts.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by SCalScoreKeeper

Well-how else would you explain the two of them potentially meeting for a second time in five days with what happened the first time?

I have no idea what happened, and tend to not view fans' statements with much authority. That said, even if it's all true, I think the idea of scheduling a 'rematch' because of one erroneous point in the first quarter is ridiculous.

If there had been a correctable error that was never corrected, with the same result (an extra point), would they do the same thing? I would hope not.

[JugglingReferee]

The solution is simple: they play a 4-minute overtime.

Have the CIF scorer that screwed pay the officials. Maybe that'll teach him.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by SCalScoreKeeper

Well-how else would you explain the two of them potentially meeting for a second time in five days with what happened the first time?

Here is an account of the situation from a fan sitting behind the table on a So Cal website:


: : The facts: ...Troy unofficial score keeper went to Edison unofficial score keeper to check and Edison score keeper had same as troy. Troy unofficial score keeper then went to CIF official score keeper to advise on mistake and was treated rudely and told if he he did not go and sit down he would have him removed from arena...

I don't trust these "facts" until I hear something from the CIF explaining why the game is being replayed.

[SCalScoreKeeper]

The game is not being replayed-All I said was that the two have been set up to meet Thursday night in the State tournament should they both advance and that I believe it is the state's attempt to right the wrong in that section final.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by SCalScoreKeeper

The game is not being replayed-All I said was that the two have been set up to meet Thursday night in the State tournament should they both advance and that I believe it is the state's attempt to right the wrong in that section final.

Hold on now.

Our state has attempted to right this wrong by setting the two up for a rematch on Thursday night in White's gym as part of the state tournament.

This is being passed on as fact when actually it's just someone's opinion. Not kosher.

Well-how else would you explain the two of them potentially meeting for a second time in five days with what happened the first time?

My guess is would be is that the brackets they were put in are leading them to meet again in 5 days. Why does is have to be some big CIF conspiracy?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by SCalScoreKeeper

The game is not being replayed-All I said was that the two have been set up to meet Thursday night in the State tournament should they both advance and that I believe it is the state's attempt to right the wrong in that section final.

So what you believe isn't really fact. We don't have any idea what really happened...and neither do you.

Got it.

Fanboys.....

[SCalScoreKeeper]

Point taken BadNewsRef-
When reporting incidents like this we need to try and be neutral in telling the story while not letting opinions guide us.I did that at the end of the original post about this game and the potential State tourney meeting on Thursday and apologize.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

So what you believe isn't really fact. We don't have any idea what really happened...and neither do you.

Got it.

Fanboys.....

Which is why I posted this:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I actually don't trust the blogged accounting of the situation. Especially the part about the "threats" towards the scorers.

Someone sitting in the stands at an NBA sized arena was privy to all the discussions going on at the scorer's table. Yeah right.