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chseagle Thu Mar 03, 2011 02:05am

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 736083)
You have to have a poll first before you can petition for anything. See the FAQs. It's a forum rule.

I was not setting up anything, I was just asking a question.

just another ref Thu Mar 03, 2011 02:15am

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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 736126)
I was not setting up anything, I was just asking a question.

You have to have a poll before you can ask a question about a petition.

APG Thu Mar 03, 2011 03:39am

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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 736126)
I was not setting up anything, I was just asking a question.

Best ask the question in poll form...it's the only reliable way to get answers.

Jurassic Referee Thu Mar 03, 2011 07:11am

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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 736126)
I was not setting up anything, I was just asking a question.

It doesn't matter. It's now too late. We have to charge you the poll tax.

Rules are rules.

Jurassic Referee Thu Mar 03, 2011 07:15am

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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 736128)
You have to have a poll before you can ask a question about a petition.

And he also has to petition us to ask that question about his petition to have a poll. And when chseagle does that, then we have to have a poll as to whether we should allow that petition.

BillyMac Thu Mar 03, 2011 07:39am

"This whole court is out of order!" (And Justice For All ) ...
 
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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 736128)
You have to have a poll before you can ask a question about a petition.

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 736157)
And he also has to petition us to ask that question about his petition to have a poll.

Man. Don't you just love Bobby's Rules of Order?

mbyron Thu Mar 03, 2011 08:27am

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 736157)
And he also has to petition us to ask that question about his petition to have a poll. And when chseagle does that, then we have to have a poll as to whether we should allow that petition.

I thought the penalty was a week of no posting.

Stat-Man Sat Mar 05, 2011 11:21pm

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Originally Posted by SCalScoreKeeper (Post 735965)
I did not accuse outright misconduct my friends-that's why I used the word "Potential" in my post. If the first three quarters were correct in both books that raises some serious questions in my mind. In my games this is why I started putting the player # next to the corresponding team foul. We use the Mark V's at my school so you have to create a space in that column for it to work.

Even with the forms I use, I put the number in the corresponding team foul spot just for that reason.

Whever one of the teams I am involved with is on the road and the home team has had past issues with sloppy scorekeeping, I will be dilligent to a tee when it comes to verifying time outs and fouls.

BillyMac Sun Mar 06, 2011 11:42am

Dot The I's, Cross The T's ...
 
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Originally Posted by Stat-Man (Post 736902)
I will be dilligent to a tee.

What?

http://ts3.mm.bing.net/images/thumbn...39593895050793

TonyT Sun Mar 06, 2011 12:00pm

Poor communcations
 
How can there be fouls given to players who were not even in the game? Also good communications between the score keepers of both teams should of prevented this. When a foul is reported talk out loud with the number of the player and the number of fouls on that player. if there is a disagreement solve the problem right then. This sounds like flat out cheating.

26 Year Gap Sun Mar 06, 2011 12:06pm

I used to do the scoring for my step-son's AAU team just prior to my re-entry into officiating. The most trouble I ever had with another scorer was when they were cheering, complaining about calls, and plain not paying attention. Fanboys or Fanmoms have no business at the table.

SCalScoreKeeper Sun Mar 06, 2011 10:04pm

We now can call California the table incompetence Capital of the world :mad: :mad: :mad:

After the issue where we have a scorekeeper accused of potential misconduct in changing the star player's foul count from five to three we have an issue in the D1A section final.

This game according to what was officially recorded on the scoreboard ended on this buzzer beater.But in the blog it notes there was a scoring controversy in the first quarter.
Amazing game-winner leaves both teams in tears (video) - OC Varsity - OC Varsity

The first quarter score should have been 10-9 red as based on this tape posted on YouTube.
YouTube - 3-3-2011 CIF Division 1A Championship Game - Troy vs. Edison - 1st Quarter (1/6)

*The team's scorekeepers each showed a score of 8-7 when the board showed 8-8.However when one of them attempted to protest they were told to be quiet or leave the arena (according to another blog).I imagine after that threat the team scorekeepers corrected their books to the board and play resumed with the period ending in a 10-10 tie.
They also went into the half tied at 22.White led by one after three.Red led by one when the video of the buzzer beater starts.

I was at this game as a fan but was not seated behind the table.I sat in the section next to white's bench so I could not tell what was being said table side.

Our state has attempted to right this wrong by setting the two up for a rematch on Thursday night in White's gym as part of the state tournament.

Stat-Man Sun Mar 06, 2011 11:40pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 737031)

Just for you, BillyMac, I'm going to put one of those in my basketball bag from now on. :D

BillyMac Mon Mar 07, 2011 07:32am

Which Sport ???
 
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Originally Posted by Stat-Man (Post 737240)
Just for you, BillyMac, I'm going to put one of those in my basketball bag from now on.

Good idea if you want to tee up a coach.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5180/...026cc06f_m.jpg

JugglingReferee Mon Mar 07, 2011 08:29am

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Originally Posted by SCalScoreKeeper (Post 737213)
We now can call California the table incompetence Capital of the world :mad: :mad: :mad:

After the issue where we have a scorekeeper accused of potential misconduct in changing the star player's foul count from five to three we have an issue in the D1A section final.

This game according to what was officially recorded on the scoreboard ended on this buzzer beater.But in the blog it notes there was a scoring controversy in the first quarter.
Amazing game-winner leaves both teams in tears (video) - OC Varsity - OC Varsity

The first quarter score should have been 10-9 red as based on this tape posted on YouTube.
YouTube - 3-3-2011 CIF Division 1A Championship Game - Troy vs. Edison - 1st Quarter (1/6)

*The team's scorekeepers each showed a score of 8-7 when the board showed 8-8.However when one of them attempted to protest they were told to be quiet or leave the arena (according to another blog).I imagine after that threat the team scorekeepers corrected their books to the board and play resumed with the period ending in a 10-10 tie.
They also went into the half tied at 22.White led by one after three.Red led by one when the video of the buzzer beater starts.

I was at this game as a fan but was not seated behind the table.I sat in the section next to white's bench so I could not tell what was being said table side.

Our state has attempted to right this wrong by setting the two up for a rematch on Thursday night in White's gym as part of the state tournament.

If they do want to set it right, you don't re-play the game. Just play the overtime that should have happened anyways.

But ya, some pretty serious errors down your way. Lesson learned: have a rep at the scorer's table and check after foul, point, and delay of game.


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