OT: Innovative dive

[Adam]

Originally Posted by bainsey

Embellished, certainly. You can card the embellisher if you so choose, but that's still a foul.

Really? On which player?

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Really? On which player?

He may be talking soccer. Divers can get carded, but sometimes the play is simply ignored.

[bainsey]

I thought we were talking soccer in this thread.

Foul on yellow, DFK to red. Card? I probably wouldn't on this one, though I know one or two senior soccer officials that have called the foul and cautioned the embellisher on the same play.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by bainsey

I thought we were talking soccer in this thread.

Foul on yellow, DFK to red. Card? I probably wouldn't on this one, though I know one or two senior soccer officials that have called the foul and cautioned the embellisher on the same play.

WTH? What play are you watching?

1. Defender moves behind opponent.
2. Defender grabs opponent's arm.
3. Defender moves opponent's arm so that opponent's arm strikes defender in the face.

Basically, the defender hit himself in the face using his opponent's arm. You're going to call that foul on the player whose arm was grabbed?

Look, I don't really care what happens in soccer, but if that happened on the BB court, it would be an intentional foul on the defender.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

WTH? What play are you watching?

1. Defender moves behind opponent.
2. Defender grabs opponent's arm.
3. Defender moves opponent's arm so that opponent's arm strikes defender in the face.

Basically, the defender hit himself in the face using his opponent's arm. You're going to call that foul on the player whose arm was grabbed?

Look, I don't really care what happens in soccer, but if that happened on the BB court, it would be an intentional foul on the defender.

You brought up the topic, Snaqs.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap

You brought up the topic, Snaqs.

Hey, I blame scrappy.

[26 Year Gap]

He started wincing before the contact. Don't see as much of that in the EPL or Bundesliga. They recently posted a story about a player kicking on owl on ESPN. Central America, I think.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Hey, I blame scrappy.

Just sent you another video. I think that music might apply here as well.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

2. Defender grabs opponent's arm.

Excessive multi-tasking -- I missed the grab. I didn't even look at the damn video title. (Thanks for the heads up.)

In that case, a clear caution on red. I'd wait a few seconds on the whistle, to see how the play plays out, but by the looks of this, there'd be a pretty quick IFK for yellow.

[ref2coach]

Originally Posted by bainsey

Excessive multi-tasking -- I missed the grab. I didn't even look at the damn video title. (Thanks for the heads up.)

In that case, a clear caution on red. I'd wait a few seconds on the whistle, to see how the play plays out, but by the looks of this, there'd be a pretty quick IFK for yellow.

I have such a high level of disdain for cheaters that I would Red Card the offender for striking the opponents hand with his face.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by ref2coach

I have such a high level of disdain for cheaters that I would Red Card the offender for striking the opponents hand with his face.

I have a similar disdain. However, our state's association requires a ten-minute sit for all player yellow cards. (High/middle school, not USSF.) That may be enough punishment for this.