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tref Wed Feb 23, 2011 02:56pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 733534)
There was likely a timeout involved.
Even if there wasnt, we can always sneek a peek once the throw-in ends.

bob jenkins Wed Feb 23, 2011 03:01pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by tref (Post 733539)
Even if there wasnt, we can always sneek a peek once the throw-in ends.
Yep -- or maybe the state uses NCAA timing rules and stops the clock in the last minute on made baskets.

letemplay Wed Feb 23, 2011 03:03pm
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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 733545)
Yep -- or maybe the state uses NCAA timing rules and stops the clock in the last minute on made baskets.
Is that a state option available this year?

Jurassic Referee Wed Feb 23, 2011 03:03pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by SperlingPE (Post 733503)
This happened in a boys varsity regular season game high school
19 seconds left in the game (4th quarter)
score is tied
team A inbounds ball after made basket (to tie the game)
team B pressures team A as they bring the ball up the floor
Trail official calls 10 second back court violation
Clock reads 12 seconds
Coach of team B points out the discrepancy to the officials
Officials agree that the ball was inbounded with 19 seconds on the clock and that the clock was started properly

What do you do as a crew?
Follow NFHS case book play 5.10.1SitB

Adam Wed Feb 23, 2011 03:14pm
If they wanted an out, they should have simply given A the ball back and not put any time back on the clock. Ball back in play at POI. That would have been "less bad" than the complete "do-over" they did.

APG Wed Feb 23, 2011 03:14pm
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Originally Posted by letemplay (Post 733546)
Is that a state option available this year?
No, but neither is a shot clock, but some states still use it.

SperlingPE Wed Feb 23, 2011 03:37pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 733534)
There was likely a timeout involved.
Team A inbounded following a timeout after the made basket. The clock was stopped when Team A inbounded. A bit of information that I failed to include.

This is a regular season game. This is not a state tournament game.

SperlingPE Wed Feb 23, 2011 03:38pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 733547)
Follow NFHS case book play 5.10.1SitB
Excellent...I had not consulted the case book

fullor30 Wed Feb 23, 2011 03:46pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by SperlingPE (Post 733567)
Team A inbounded following a timeout after the made basket. The clock was stopped when Team A inbounded. A bit of information that I failed to include.This is a regular season game. This is not a state tournament game.
Quite significant bit I'd say.

Mark Padgett Wed Feb 23, 2011 04:03pm
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Originally Posted by Texas Aggie (Post 733517)
You aren't going to make that call if they are anywhere near the division line.....
Why not? :confused: If you don't, you are penalizing the defensive team for playing good defense.

JugglingReferee Wed Feb 23, 2011 06:03pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by SperlingPE (Post 733503)
This happened in a boys varsity regular season game high school
19 seconds left in the game (4th quarter)
score is tied
team A inbounds ball after made basket (to tie the game)
team B pressures team A as they bring the ball up the floor
Trail official calls 10 second back court violation
Clock reads 12 seconds
Coach of team B points out the discrepancy to the officials
Officials agree that the ball was inbounded with 19 seconds on the clock and that the clock was started properly

What do you do as a crew?
I will post the crew's decision and I will post the state high school association's recommnedation (after the fact)
Assess the penalty for failing to cause the ball to gain FC status within 10 seconds.

Mechanicsman Wed Feb 23, 2011 06:39pm
Well it certainly is not correctable. Who knows? Mabey the timer started the clock late.

APG Wed Feb 23, 2011 06:44pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mechanicsman (Post 733670)
Well it certainly is not correctable. Who knows? Mabey the timer started the clock late.
Which is something we should be aware of.

Bad Zebra Wed Feb 23, 2011 06:52pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mechanicsman (Post 733670)
Well it certainly is not correctable. Who knows? Mabey the timer started the clock late.
That would be my contention if I were on the crew. Put it back in play at POI.

Raymond Wed Feb 23, 2011 07:31pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mechanicsman (Post 733670)
Well it certainly is not correctable. Who knows? Mabey the timer started the clock late.
It was stated earlier in this thread that the clock was started properly.


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