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Freddy Tue Feb 22, 2011 06:54am
Clarity of Number of FT's
 
For the sake of clarity, and to avoid having a correctible error, I'm accustomed to always "paint the inner walls of the three-sided room." With ball between wrists, index finger upward, I say "one and one" to the players opposite table, then to the shooter, then to the players tableside. By this time both partners and the table have seen what I'm administering, offering at least three redundant opportunities for me to peer check the number of free throws. Each partner and the table flash back the number of throws.
Redundant, but effective.

Jurassic Referee Tue Feb 22, 2011 07:22am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 732721)
For me:

--bounce the ball, signal 1-and-1, catch ball
For me:

--bounce the ball, signal 1-and-1, catch ball in the crack of my azz and then flip it to the FT shooter

<font size = -4>Don't Mess With The Zohan</font>

BillyMac Tue Feb 22, 2011 07:26am
Never Gets Old ...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by referee99 (Post 732703)
Ball under shirt
Globetrotters' game?

Adam Tue Feb 22, 2011 08:31am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 732722)
Nope, it's live when caught by the shooter and remains live during the entire FT. Stop saying incorrect information.
and unnecessary

bob jenkins Tue Feb 22, 2011 08:40am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 732832)
and unnecessary
Agreed. "That Guy" says, "Bonus. 1 and 1. Play the miss. Let it hit."

Just administer the damn FT so we can get back to the game.

Anything beyond the number of throws is an unnecessary delay.

Adam Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:01am
Oh, in regards to the OP, I do the last one. Under the elbow, flash the signal as I say "one and one," bounce the ball and get out of the way.

Raymond Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:15am
Quote:
Originally Posted by MelbRef (Post 732663)
What do you do with the ball when administering a 1-and-1?

What I've seen:
- hold ball in hands with index fingers extended
- same as above, ball between wrists
- bounce the ball, signal 1-and-1, catch ball
- hold ball under one arm/elbow, signal 1-and-1

What is "correct"?
You should really ask your interpreter and/or assignor how they want it done--or if they even care.

Scrapper1 Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:21am
I worked with a guy this year who did something I'd never seen before. He held the ball in one hand and then with the other hand, he pointed with one finger to one end of the free throw line and then the other end of the free throw line, while saying the "one-and-one". I thought it looked interesting, but it's nowhere near the "correct" mechanic.

Adam Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:23am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scrapper1 (Post 732869)
I worked with a guy this year who did something I'd never seen before. He held the ball in one hand and then with the other hand, he pointed with one finger to one end of the free throw line and then the other end of the free throw line, while saying the "one-and-one". I thought it looked interesting, but it's nowhere near the "correct" mechanic.
Hmmm. May as well use the "hook 'em horns" or "hang ten" signals.

Raymond Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:26am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 732872)
Hmmm. May as well use the "hook 'em horns" or "hang ten" signals.
Which is what I do. But I rotate my hand back and forth a couple times when doing it.

chymechowder Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:44am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 732872)
Hmmm. May as well use the "hook 'em horns" or "hang ten" signals.
You mean the Ronnie James Dio signal.

http://gossip.whyfame.com/files/2010/05/ronnie_dio.jpg

Adam Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:45am
Who?

M&M Guy Tue Feb 22, 2011 01:04pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 732933)
Who?
No, he was never in that group; you're thinking of Roger Daltry.

26 Year Gap Tue Feb 22, 2011 01:20pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 732834)
Agreed. "That Guy" says, "Bonus. 1 and 1. Play the miss. Let it hit."

Just administer the damn FT so we can get back to the game.

Anything beyond the number of throws is an unnecessary delay.
+1

The one thing that would speed things up is to eliminate the congrats on the miss by teammates. But, since that won't happen, I say "1 AND 1" while holding the ball and showing index fingers at that time. No repeats. No commentary about lane entry. No telling my partner his shoe is untied. I just try to move it along as quickly as I can.

BillyMac Tue Feb 22, 2011 06:17pm
That Other Guy ...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 732834)
"That Guy" says, "Let it hit."
At least "That Guy" has it right. Wrong, but right. I've had partners who say, "Let it hit the rim". Wrong, and wrong.


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