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Adam Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:36am
I think there's confusion on who the assistants are talking to. I can't imagine BZ would ignore an assistant yelling at the officials (standing or sitting), and I guess bob was thinking therefore that he was assuming the assistants were yelling at the players; in which case an immediate T would be something That Guy would do.

JRutledge Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:38am
I would address it, but I would doubt I would give a T the first time it happened. Just like I address a lot of things before I give a T.

Peace

Judtech Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:53am
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Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 732382)
For clarity, ND, BZ means addressing the HEAD coach. The head coach is ultimately responsible for his/her bench's conduct.

As for rule references, look at NFHS 10-4-4 and 10-5-1.
Yeah, NEVER address the assistant coach. I'm just sayin......:D
When dealing with the bench always address the head coach and make it their responsibility.
The rules for Ast Coaches standing are the same for the players.
Some officials are ok with Ast Coaches standing and coaching their team or talking to an individual player. Some are not. We each have our own threshold for what we allow and what we don't. I think we all can agree that any Ast Coach standing and yelling at officials is over the line.

JRutledge Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:01pm
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Originally Posted by Judtech (Post 732507)
Yeah, NEVER address the assistant coach. I'm just sayin......:D
When dealing with the bench always address the head coach and make it their responsibility.
The rules for Ast Coaches standing are the same for the players.
Some officials are ok with Ast Coaches standing and coaching their team or talking to an individual player. Some are not. We each have our own threshold for what we allow and what we don't. I think we all can agree that any Ast Coach standing and yelling at officials is over the line.
I disagree. I address the assistant a lot when needed. I just make sure I say this where the head coach is aware. But they are adults too. I just give them a much shorter rope.

Peace

dsqrddgd909 Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:06pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Judtech (Post 732507)
Yeah, NEVER address the assistant coach. I'm just sayin......:D
When dealing with the bench always address the head coach and make it their responsibility.
The rules for Ast Coaches standing are the same for the players.
Some officials are ok with Ast Coaches standing and coaching their team or talking to an individual player. Some are not. We each have our own threshold for what we allow and what we don't. I think we all can agree that any Ast Coach standing and yelling at officials is over the line.
I, for one, am not OK with the assistants standing. It's not supported by rule, we already have one coach we have to watch out for while along the sideline and it makes it easier to grant timeouts when only 1 person is standing. I will ask nicely the first time, then warn the second time.

Adam Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:29pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 732509)
I disagree. I address the assistant a lot when needed. I just make sure I say this where the head coach is aware. But they are adults too. I just give them a much shorter rope.

Peace
I will answer questions from an AC if they're a) legitimate as judged by me and b) politely/respectfully asked.

This means I don't actually answer many questions from ACs during a given season, but oh well. In all seriousness, it's easier for me here as most assistant coaches already know this and simply coach the kids.

JRutledge Mon Feb 21, 2011 02:29pm
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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 732517)
I will answer questions from an AC if they're a) legitimate as judged by me and b) politely/respectfully asked.

This means I don't actually answer many questions from ACs during a given season, but oh well. In all seriousness, it's easier for me here as most assistant coaches already know this and simply coach the kids.
I am not really talking about answering questions. I will tell an assistant what they need to do directly. Of course anyone asks a question by themselves I will answer. But if Assistant coaches are talking when the Head Coach is talking to me, that is not going to happen. Again, not saying I tolerate this, just not the first action is a T. It is usually with a direct comment to them while the HC is standing right there.

Peace

bainsey Mon Feb 21, 2011 02:30pm
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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 732517)
I will answer questions from an AC if they're a) legitimate as judged by me and b) politely/respectfully asked.
+1

If an AC is standing and coaching, I'll deal with the head coach. I only to deal with it once this year.

"Coach, only you can be standing here. Your assistant can't."

"Oh, got it. Hey Jerry, SIT DOWN!"


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