Will probably never see it again

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

I don't view keep away as basketball.

I had a spirited discussion with someone who feels the same way. That guy teaches at the high school that was on the losing end of the game I link-posted earlier, so perhaps "consider the source" plays a role here.

This can be an emotional issue. Those that want the shot clock can be very adamant. I tend to believe that having a shot clock for every high school game -- varsity, JV, freshmen -- will cause far more problems than the number of stall-ball games they'll prevent. I foresee shot-clock reset errors cause bigger issues in games than stall-ball ever will.

Someone else pointed out that fundamentals have taken such a whack at the high school level, that a shot clock will only create more sloppy play. Honestly, I don't see a shot clock happening in the northeast corner for a long while.

[APG]

Originally Posted by bainsey

I had a spirited discussion with someone who feels the same way. That guy teaches at the high school that was on the losing end of the game I link-posted earlier, so perhaps "consider the source" plays a role here.

This can be an emotional issue. Those that want the shot clock can be very adamant. I tend to believe that having a shot clock for every high school game -- varsity, JV, freshmen -- will cause far more problems than the number of stall-ball games they'll prevent. I foresee shot-clock reset errors cause bigger issues in games than stall-ball ever will.

Someone else pointed out that fundamentals have taken such a whack at the high school level, that a shot clock will only create more sloppy play. Honestly, I don't see a shot clock happening in the northeast corner for a long while.

I would buy the shot clock resetting error issue except we already have states that use the shot clock. Let's not act like working the shot clock is some great mystery. I don't doubt that it would be rough at first. There would definitely be an adjustment period. But low and behold, those states that do use the shot clock seem to be doing just well. I also believe that those that use FIBA rules use the shot clock at all levels at well. So it's definitely something that can be taken care of with some time.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

I would buy the shot clock resetting error issue except we already have states that use the shot clock.

Yup, and I would guesstimate that I have at 1 shot clock error every other game. Either an incorrect reset or failure to reset (not just starting incorrectly, which happens all the time, even in college games).

Originally Posted by bainsey

Someone else pointed out that fundamentals have taken such a whack at the high school level, that a shot clock will only create more sloppy play.

Around here, basketball skill levels are at a really low point. I can't say for sure that it's because of the shot clock. It might just be because kids have so many other things to occupy their time that they don't spend the time to practice those skills. But I do see too many teams who try to play an "up tempo" game, but utterly lack the skills to do it and it makes for ugly, ugly basketball.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

I would guesstimate that I have at 1 shot clock error every other game.

There it is. That seems a lot more frequent than the number of stall ball games there are.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by bainsey

There it is. That seems a lot more frequent than the number of stall ball games there are.

More frequent, sure, but for those who claim stall ball is some sort of travesty, it's less problematic.