Kid couldn't take the hint

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

"or during any intermission."

I agree. During any intermission, all team members are bench personnel and are penalized accordingly. And that's why rule 10-4-1(i) is applicable in the OP instead of 10-3-3 imo. We teach our guys to use 10-3-3 during a period and 10-4-1(i) during intermissions.

[Mark Padgett]

BTW - having the indirects against the coach to lose his right to stand in the box was irrelevant because our local kids rec league doesn't recognize a coaching box. Over half our Board members are also referees, so who do you think makes the rules? It's good to be the king.

Next season, I think we're going back to all running clock games.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

I agree. During any intermission, all team members are bench personnel and are penalized accordingly. And that's why rule 10-4-1(i) is applicable in the OP instead of 10-3-3 imo. We teach our guys to use 10-3-3 during a period and 10-4-1(i) during intermissions.

Interesting.

In an "unnanounced" change (iirc), FED added 10-4-1(i) and removed "during an intermission" from 10-3-3 between the 2009-2010 and 2010-2011 books.

Thanks to JR and JAR for pointing that out

[BillyMac]

When a player dunks a dead ball, it not an "unsporting" technical foul.

When bench personnel dunks a dead ball, it is an "unsporting" technical foul.

Interesting. Very interesting.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

When a player dunks a dead ball, it not an "unsporting" technical foul.

When bench personnel dunks a dead ball, it is an "unsporting" technical foul.

Interesting. Very interesting.

Don't get too hung up on "unsporting". It's a red herring in this instance imo.

Afaik, the intent and purpose of the new addition..10-4-1(i).... was to re-enforce the rules concept that the head coach is always responsible for his bench and that every team member is bench personnel pre and post game and during intermissions. That's why every technical foul committed by bench personnel is accompanied by an indirect "T" charged to the head coach. Technical fouls committed by players during a period though get charged solely to the player. Ergo, we now have rules coverage for both illegal dunking by a player and illegal dunking by bench personnel.

It makes sense to me. Kinda....

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Don't get too hung up on "unsporting".

It was to answer an earlier post regarding special league rules for additional penalties for "unsporting" technical fouls. The NFHS is open ended on what an unsporting technical foul is, but does list many other types of technical fouls that are not unsporting, such as a player dunking a dead ball.