Traveling

[Raymond]

Give us some specific plays/scenarios.

[The_Rookie]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Give us some specific plays/scenarios.

1) Player rolls around with the ball on floor..but does not ROLLOVER from Back to front or front to back.

2) Player sits on his butt with the ball

3) player drops to his knee while holding the ball

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by The_Rookie

1) Player rolls around with the ball on floor..but does not ROLLOVER from Back to front or front to back.

I don't know what that means, "rolls around with the ball." If he's on his back or belly and rolls over, it's traveling. Opinions very on whether roll over means to his side or from back to belly or belly to back. If he rolls from either to his side, I have traveling as that's what the rule clearly states to me.

2) Player sits on his butt with the ball

It's nothing unless he attempts to get up.

3) player drops to his knee while holding the ball

Always traveling anytime a player holding the ball tocuhes the floor with any part of his body other than his foot or hand.

[Johnny Ringo]

More for rookies ...

What if player with the ball is flat on his back and does a sit-up to a sitting position?

What if a player with ball has established left foot as pivot, drops to his right knee, but maintains his left pivot foot?

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Opinions very [sic] on whether roll over means to his side or from back to belly or belly to back. If he rolls from either to his side, I have traveling...

As do I. I've never had a clear-cut line drawn on the "roll over" rule, but as I understand it, belly/back to side (90 degrees) is enough for a travel. I think this rule could use a rewrite, for clarity's sake and get everyone on the same page.

[jophyal]

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3) player drops to his knee while holding the ball

Always traveling anytime a player holding the ball tocuhes the floor with any part of his body other than his foot or hand.

Does that apply if he continues his dribble and stands up?

[APG]

Originally Posted by jophyal

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3) player drops to his knee while holding the ball

Always traveling anytime a player holding the ball tocuhes the floor with any part of his body other than his foot or hand.

Does that apply if he continues his dribble and stands up?

Ask yourself this, is it possible to travel while dribbling?

[johnsonboys03]

Originally Posted by jophyal

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3) player drops to his knee while holding the ball

Always traveling anytime a player holding the ball tocuhes the floor with any part of his body other than his foot or hand.

Does that apply if he continues his dribble and stands up?

Alway? What if a player while gathering the ball momentum takes he or she to the floor.

[BktBallRef]

Why do you guys make this stuff difficult?

Originally Posted by johnsonboys03

Alway? What if a player while gathering the ball momentum takes he or she to the floor.

We said from the get-go if the player was HOLDING the ball. If he's holding the ball when he touches the floor with anythign other than his hand or foot, it's traveling.

Originally Posted by jophyal

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3) player drops to his knee while holding the ball

Always traveling anytime a player holding the ball tocuhes the floor with any part of his body other than his foot or hand.

Does that apply if he continues his dribble and stands up?

If he's HOLDING the ball, he's not DRIBBLING, is he?

You can't travel unless you're HOLDING the ball.*

[Jfpdi]

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3) player drops to his knee while holding the ball

Always traveling anytime a player holding the ball tocuhes the floor with any part of his body other than his foot or hand.


Always is a strong word because if you are in one of those places that uses NCAA women's rules ( such as colleges) and NYS high school girls basketball this is not a travel violation. It is recognized that just dropping to one kneee does not necessarily mean the pivot foot moved illegally.