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Old Wed Feb 02, 2011, 04:53pm
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What are the coach's "rights" after he calls a time out, in regard to getting out on the court? VG three whistle game last night had the V coach call a 30 sec. TO and attempt to walk to near center court to meet a player he wanted to chew out. The youngest member of our crew stopped the coach short and ordered him back to his bench area. The more senior member of our crew pulled him aside during the TO and instructed him (in a teaching way) to allow the coach to momentarily do what he wanted to do, THEN move the whole huddle back to the bench area.

Is there any rules support either way on this? Do you allow a coach enough rope to handle his team in this way?
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Old Wed Feb 02, 2011, 04:56pm
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As long as he returns to his bench area quickly, I'm not inserting myself into this one.
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Old Wed Feb 02, 2011, 05:00pm
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+1 Snaqwells.

However, if the coach says anything to the officials other then "full timeout" or "30-second timeout", it would be very easy to justify a whacking.
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Old Wed Feb 02, 2011, 05:05pm
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If he comes to center court to meet me and ask me a question (assuming he's already stated his preference for the TO), I'll walk and talk with him back to his bench area. That is, of course, assuming he's asking a legitimate question politely.
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Old Wed Feb 02, 2011, 05:23pm
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What are the coach's "rights" after he calls a time out, in regard to getting out on the court? VG three whistle game last night had the V coach call a 30 sec. TO and attempt to walk to near center court to meet a player he wanted to chew out. The youngest member of our crew stopped the coach short and ordered him back to his bench area. The more senior member of our crew pulled him aside during the TO and instructed him (in a teaching way) to allow the coach to momentarily do what he wanted to do, THEN move the whole huddle back to the bench area.

Is there any rules support either way on this? Do you allow a coach enough rope to handle his team in this way?
The coach is supposed to stay in his bench area.

Inserting yourself, though, seems over-officious in the case you mentioned.
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Old Wed Feb 02, 2011, 05:25pm
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Just remind the coach to be in the bench area. Not seeing why that would be a problem to do that if the coach is a the center circle or somewhere way out of the area. I just do want them across the court with me.

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Old Wed Feb 02, 2011, 05:42pm
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The more senior member of our crew pulled him aside during the TO and instructed him (in a teaching way) to allow the coach to momentarily do what he wanted to do, THEN move the whole huddle back to the bench area.

Is there any rules support either way on this? Do you allow a coach enough rope to handle his team in this way?
+1 for the senior official.

NFHS rules 5-12-5 tells you that TO's "shall be conducted within the confines of the time-out area". NFHS rule 1-13-3 defines the time-out area.
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Remember that a coach can "request" a timeout.
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NFHS rule 1-13-3 defines the time-out area.
The time-out area shall be the area inside an imaginary rectangle
formed by the boundaries of the sideline (including the bench), end line, and an
imaginary line extended from the free-throw lane line nearest the bench area
meeting an imaginary line extended from the coaching-box line.
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Remember that a coach can "request" a timeout.
He can also call a timeout.
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He can also call a timeout.
He can also call a cab. Doesn't mean he's going to get one.
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Just remind the coach to be in the bench area. Not seeing why that would be a problem to do that if the coach is a the center circle or somewhere way out of the area. I just do want them across the court with me.

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Noting that the bench area defined for timeouts (as BillyMac cited), while not going all the way to center court, is fairly large.
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Totally off topic
When I saw the thread title, I was thinking more along the lines of:

1. You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say may result in a technical foul...
2. You have the right to have an assistant present...but anything he says may result in him (and you indirectly) receiving a technical foul....

Sorry to hijack the thread, but I couldn't resist

We now return you to the original topic......
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Old Thu Feb 03, 2011, 02:12am
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I'm not keen on the 'senior' official stopping the 'younger' from doing his job. Now one of the 'whistles' has been belittled in public.
Save that for the locker room.
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Old Thu Feb 03, 2011, 07:13am
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I'm not keen on the 'senior' official stopping the 'younger' from doing his job. Now one of the 'whistles' has been belittled in public.
Save that for the locker room.
How did the senior official stop the younger guy from doing anything? And how/when did the junior guy get belittled in public?

According to the OP, the senior official only had a quiet talk with the young guy "in a teaching way" during the TO. That's called "training".
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