Deaf School Situation

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by CDurham

4-33-4. She's not coming in unless she is in uniform in my game.

She wasn't wearing a uniform? I thought she got #21's?

[CDurham]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

She wasn't wearing a uniform? I thought she got #21's?

She wanted too. The girl wasnt even on the bench and was in street clothes. According to 4-33-4, "A team member is a member of bench personnel who is in uniform and is eligible to become a player"

Why yes a manager is bench personnel, but she was not a team member by this rule. Unless I am misreading, which I could be. And is it legal for her to grab someone's jersey who is already listed in the book as that number?

[APG]

Originally Posted by CDurham

She wanted too. The girl wasnt even on the bench and was in street clothes. According to 4-33-4, "A team member is a member of bench personnel who is in uniform and is eligible to become a player"

Why yes a manager is bench personnel, but she was not a team member by this rule. Unless I am misreading, which I could be. And is it legal for her to grab someone's jersey who is already listed in the book as that number?

As long as she's added to the book and she's given a number, she's a team member eligible to play. Also there's nothing that say a coach can not change a player's number. They must notify the official scorer and the referee. Only one T will be issued though.

[CDurham]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

As long as she's added to the book and she's given a number, she's a team member eligible to play. Also there's nothing that say a coach can not change a player's number. They must notify the official scorer and the referee. Only one T will be issued though.

Can she take #21's? Who is already listed ast 21?

[APG]

Originally Posted by CDurham

Can she take #21's? Who is already listed ast 21?

I don't see why not. All you would have to do is ensure that the old 21 has her number changed in the book.

[CDurham]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

I don't see why not. All you would have to do is ensure that the old 21 has her number changed in the book.

Okay. The situation seemed unfair to me. In allowing the team to add a manager. One of our veteran guys here said it should not be allowed also. But everyones comments here are appreciated. Thanks

[RobbyinTN]

Originally Posted by CDurham

Okay. The situation seemed unfair to me. In allowing the team to add a manager. One of our veteran guys here said it should not be allowed also. But everyones comments here are appreciated. Thanks

Just because a guy is a veteran doesn't mean he knows the rules well. I worked with a veteran one night - he was the R and I was U1. Had I not known the rules that night we would have had a disaster because a situation came up that he did not know how to handle but it was a textbook case. Our assigner and supervisor was advised of the situation and he found out that the R didn't know the rule - how embarrassing!! (I am scheduled to call with him this week - I will be the R this time even thought he as several years of calling games on me (we are assigned the R position usually due to experience - the most experienced get the R slot but obviously not always). So just because a guy has many years of "experience" doesn't mean he really knows the game that well.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by CDurham

Okay. The situation seemed unfair to me. In allowing the team to add a manager. One of our veteran guys here said it should not be allowed also. But everyones comments here are appreciated. Thanks

Not to pile on but......I'm gonna pile on.

We as officials don't get to call the game according to what we think might be fair or not. Like 'em or not, we're supposed to follow the rules. In this situation, you went directly against NFHS rules and made up your very own rules. That's always wrong.

I hope the comments that you got here were more than appreciated. I hope they'll stop you from doing anything like that in the future.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by CDurham

Can she take #21's? Who is already listed ast 21?

Yes, she can. The coach told you 21 was injured and that the manager would be taking that uniform. You add the name, give the 21 to the new player and assess the T. The injured player is not returning.