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Old Sat Jan 29, 2011, 04:43pm
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NFHS rules on scoring into an opponent's goal

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I looked at the NCAA rules, and it would appear to be a legal score for the opposing team of the player who the ball bounced off of before going through the basket, with the caveat that the score is not credited to any particular player with a footnote made in the scorebook. I also found it interesting that an opponent scoring a goal for the other team is always two points no matter where the last contact is.

Is the rule (about the shot being legal and the points not credited to any player) the same under NFHS rules?
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Old Sat Jan 29, 2011, 04:44pm
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Yes. Anytime a live ball enters the hoop, points are credited to the appropriate team.
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Old Sat Jan 29, 2011, 05:25pm
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So under NFHS rules, no player is credited with the score, correct?

If you check the comments there, a lot of people think that the score is credited to the closest inbounds offensive player.
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Old Sat Jan 29, 2011, 05:35pm
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So under NFHS rules, no player is credited with the score, correct?

If you check the comments there, a lot of people think that the score is credited to the closest inbounds offensive player.
That is correct under NFHS rules.

People think it's credited to the closest offensive player because that's the NBA rule.

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Rule 5, Section I

d. A field goal accidentally scored in an opponent’s basket shall be added to the opponent’s score, credited to the opposing player nearest the player whose actions caused the ball to enter the basket.
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Old Sun Jan 30, 2011, 09:05pm
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Interesting, is the rule worded so that any attempt at the wrong basket is a violation; or only those where the player knows it's the wrong basket?
Called so it doesn't affect the betting line. (Team up by 20 points; line is 19; player shoots at wrong basket as time expires and team wins by 18 -- someone is mad).

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Yes. Anytime a live ball enters the hoop, points are credited to the appropriate team.
Not true. a throw-in is a live ball, and no points are scored if the ball enters the basket.
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Old Sun Jan 30, 2011, 09:48pm
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Called so it doesn't affect the betting line.
The Tim Donaghy Rule?
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Old Mon Jan 31, 2011, 01:49am
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The Tim Donaghy Rule?
This rule has been in the book before the Tim Donaghy situation.
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Yes. Anytime a live ball enters the hoop, points are credited to the appropriate team.
The inference on this statement is that anytime a live ball enters the basket that points are awarded. Surely that isn't what you meant?
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Old Mon Jan 31, 2011, 01:47am
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The inference on this statement is that anytime a live ball enters the basket that points are awarded. Surely that isn't what you meant?
Err...you are correct. A live ball from inbounds is the correct.
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Old Sat Jan 29, 2011, 06:43pm
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Is the rule (about the shot being legal and the points not credited to any player) the same under NFHS rules?
It's not a shot. A shot can only be taken at your own basket. It's just a ball that goes through the basket that counts as two points.
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I worked a full day of "a" (not even "A") girl's basketball yesterday. The games are only 20 minutes long. On one play, a girl scored into her opponent's basket and was almost fouled on the "shot", too.

To keep my mind active during these held-ball contests, I went through the implications of actually being fouled when shooting into the opponent's basket. Fun times.
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Old Sat Jan 29, 2011, 07:47pm
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It's not a shot. A shot can only be taken at your own basket. It's just a ball that goes through the basket that counts as two points.
Yeah - I know. However - I've been going over one particular rulebook and the term used is almost always "try".

So technically - the "goal" counted.....
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Old Sat Jan 29, 2011, 07:58pm
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Yeah - I know. However - I've been going over one particular rulebook and the term used is almost always "try".
And a try is, by definition, towards the player's own basket. Anything towards the wrong basket is simply a thrown ball.

The key with the definition is, if time expires prior to the ball going through the "wrong" basket, it doesn't count. Same if there's a foul on the "shooter" at the wrong basket. Ball is dead, and the player is not considered in the act of shooting when he's fouled. Ball out of bounds for a throw-in unless the bonus is in effect.

I'm not aware this differs at any level.
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In days gone by, a basket was credited to the player closest to the basket. Just like in the olden days of soccer when 'own goals' were credited to the last offensive player to touch the ball. The footnote is something that occurred during the gap, I believe.
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Old Sat Jan 29, 2011, 09:13pm
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And a try is, by definition, towards the player's own basket. Anything towards the wrong basket is simply a thrown ball.

The key with the definition is, if time expires prior to the ball going through the "wrong" basket, it doesn't count. Same if there's a foul on the "shooter" at the wrong basket. Ball is dead, and the player is not considered in the act of shooting when he's fouled. Ball out of bounds for a throw-in unless the bonus is in effect.

I'm not aware this differs at any level.
This is true at the NFHS, NCAA, and NBA level.
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