NFHS rules on scoring into an opponent's goal

[bearclause]

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I looked at the NCAA rules, and it would appear to be a legal score for the opposing team of the player who the ball bounced off of before going through the basket, with the caveat that the score is not credited to any particular player with a footnote made in the scorebook. I also found it interesting that an opponent scoring a goal for the other team is always two points no matter where the last contact is.

Is the rule (about the shot being legal and the points not credited to any player) the same under NFHS rules?

[APG]

Yes. Anytime a live ball enters the hoop, points are credited to the appropriate team.

[bearclause]

So under NFHS rules, no player is credited with the score, correct?

If you check the comments there, a lot of people think that the score is credited to the closest inbounds offensive player.

[APG]

Originally Posted by bearclause

So under NFHS rules, no player is credited with the score, correct?

If you check the comments there, a lot of people think that the score is credited to the closest inbounds offensive player.

That is correct under NFHS rules.

People think it's credited to the closest offensive player because that's the NBA rule.

NBA
Rule 5, Section I

d. A field goal accidentally scored in an opponent’s basket shall be added to the opponent’s score, credited to the opposing player nearest the player whose actions caused the ball to enter the basket.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by bearclause

Is the rule (about the shot being legal and the points not credited to any player) the same under NFHS rules?

It's not a shot. A shot can only be taken at your own basket. It's just a ball that goes through the basket that counts as two points.

[JugglingReferee]

I worked a full day of "a" (not even "A") girl's basketball yesterday. The games are only 20 minutes long. On one play, a girl scored into her opponent's basket and was almost fouled on the "shot", too.

To keep my mind active during these held-ball contests, I went through the implications of actually being fouled when shooting into the opponent's basket. Fun times.

[bearclause]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

It's not a shot. A shot can only be taken at your own basket. It's just a ball that goes through the basket that counts as two points.

Yeah - I know. However - I've been going over one particular rulebook and the term used is almost always "try".

So technically - the "goal" counted.....

[Adam]

Originally Posted by bearclause

Yeah - I know. However - I've been going over one particular rulebook and the term used is almost always "try".

And a try is, by definition, towards the player's own basket. Anything towards the wrong basket is simply a thrown ball.

The key with the definition is, if time expires prior to the ball going through the "wrong" basket, it doesn't count. Same if there's a foul on the "shooter" at the wrong basket. Ball is dead, and the player is not considered in the act of shooting when he's fouled. Ball out of bounds for a throw-in unless the bonus is in effect.

I'm not aware this differs at any level.

[26 Year Gap]

In days gone by, a basket was credited to the player closest to the basket. Just like in the olden days of soccer when 'own goals' were credited to the last offensive player to touch the ball. The footnote is something that occurred during the gap, I believe.

[APG]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

And a try is, by definition, towards the player's own basket. Anything towards the wrong basket is simply a thrown ball.

The key with the definition is, if time expires prior to the ball going through the "wrong" basket, it doesn't count. Same if there's a foul on the "shooter" at the wrong basket. Ball is dead, and the player is not considered in the act of shooting when he's fouled. Ball out of bounds for a throw-in unless the bonus is in effect.

I'm not aware this differs at any level.

This is true at the NFHS, NCAA, and NBA level.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by bearclause

... the term used is almost always "try".

That's the point. It's not in this case.

[Stat-Man]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

And a try is, by definition, towards the player's own basket. Anything towards the wrong basket is simply a thrown ball.

The key with the definition is, if time expires prior to the ball going through the "wrong" basket, it doesn't count. Same if there's a foul on the "shooter" at the wrong basket. Ball is dead, and the player is not considered in the act of shooting when he's fouled. Ball out of bounds for a throw-in unless the bonus is in effect.

I'm not aware this differs at any level.

I believe in NBA rules, a try at the wrong goal is a violation.

[APG]

Originally Posted by Stat-Man

I believe in NBA rules, a try at the wrong goal is a violation.

Yes, it is a violation to intentionally shoot at the wrong goal. This violation was called when Nate Robinson tried it a couple of years ago at the end of the quarter.

[BillyMac]

Black 23 has a white undershirt. Penalty: Hanged, drawn and quartered.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

Yes, it is a violation to intentionally shoot at the wrong goal. This violation was called when Nate Robinson tried it a couple of years ago at the end of the quarter.

Interesting, is the rule worded so that any attempt at the wrong basket is a violation; or only those where the player knows it's the wrong basket?