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CMHCoachNRef Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:05am

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 716263)
I know several areas like Wisconsin that have either banned or restricted usage of the coaching box. And in all cases it was never because of coach's coaching. It was because of coach's officiating. A smart coach can always get his point across to us without putting on a show.

Unfortunately, I personally don't like punishing all coaches (I used to be able to say "us" until recently) because of some bad apples. Address the bad ones with the appropriate penalty and move on.....

Jurassic Referee Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:11am

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Originally Posted by CMHCoachNRef (Post 716271)
Unfortunately, I personally don't like punishing all coaches (I used to be able to say "us" until recently) because of some bad apples. Address the bad ones with the appropriate penalty and move on.....

Agree. If we take care of bidness, then there's no need for others to take care of bidness for us. Making a yappy coach sit on the bench isn't gonna stop him/her from yapping. It might make 'em less visible, but that's about it.

Rich Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:11am

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Originally Posted by CMHCoachNRef (Post 716271)
Unfortunately, I personally don't like punishing all coaches (I used to be able to say "us" until recently) because of some bad apples. Address the bad ones with the appropriate penalty and move on.....

The coaching box is still not the default option in the NFHS rulebook. WI still treats it as a privilege that can be removed. They want a report with every situation that causes a coach to lose the coaching box.

I find that mentality silly, but it's their sandbox.

Adam Sat Jan 15, 2011 12:37pm

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Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 716278)
The coaching box is still not the default option in the NFHS rulebook. WI still treats it as a privilege that can be removed. They want a report with every situation that causes a coach to lose the coaching box.

I find that mentality silly, but it's their sandbox.

Iowa used to have it for girls only; I found the boys coaches, in general, much less vocal. Although the only coach Ts I gave there were in boys games, so....

They have since taken it back and neither side has the coaching box now.

tref Sat Jan 15, 2011 03:16pm

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Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 715900)
Nope. I'd be happy to work a lower level game on a night off, if asked. I'm just saying that I have no personal stake in it on most nights is all. Sorry if it came off otherwise - I didn't mean it to.

Not at all Rich. I should've included a :D

Judtech Sun Jan 16, 2011 02:56pm

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Originally Posted by Cobra (Post 715977)
No, there is no coaching box at all. Everyone must remain seated.

Which could make for a crowded bench during Time Outs!:D

BktBallRef Sun Jan 16, 2011 03:04pm

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Originally Posted by oldschool (Post 715875)
Coach would get up and move from one end of bench to the other with the offense and defense.

She stated she remained in contact with the bench while moving.

How can she get up and still be in contact with the bench? :confused:

Put her a$$ on the bench and tell her to stay there.

Cobra Sun Jan 16, 2011 06:58pm

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 716866)
How can she get up and still be in contact with the bench? :confused:

Arm touching the bench.

BillyMac Sun Jan 16, 2011 07:45pm

Left Hand Red ...
 
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Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 716866)
How can she get up and still be in contact with the bench?

Haven't you ever played Twister?

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Jurassic Referee Sun Jan 16, 2011 08:10pm

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Originally Posted by Cobra (Post 717019)
Arm touching the bench.

What difference would that make? The rule says she must remain seated.

I've kinda suspected it from your past posts but you just proved you don't know the difference between your azz and your arm.

BktBallRef Sun Jan 16, 2011 08:15pm

NFHS rules don't say the head coach has to be in contact with the bench. It says,

Bench personnel shall not:
Stand in the team bench area while the clock is running or is stopped, and must remain seated

If 10-5 isn't in play, then the coach has to remain SEATED except for exception 10-4-4b, c, & d.

BktBallRef Sun Jan 16, 2011 08:16pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 717069)
What difference would that make? The rule says she must remain seated.

I've kinda suspected it from your past posts but you just proved you don't know the difference between your azz and your arm.

+2 http://www.runemasterstudios.com/gra...es/roflmao.gif

Adam Sun Jan 16, 2011 08:18pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 717069)
What difference would that make? The rule says she must remain seated.

I've kinda suspected it from your past posts but you just proved you don't know the difference between your azz and your arm.

When the penguin said "remain in contact," I assumed WI had some goofy adaptation that allowed them to stand as long as they were touching the bench. Even so, I agree that moving down the bench and touching it with your hand(s) would be an act most likely not intended by the rule.

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Originally Posted by chartrusepengui (Post 715827)
Not in our state. Coaching box is only for head coach at varsity level. All other levels must remain in contact with bench in WI

But, as was noted, there's nothing that requires them to sit back down in the same spot after properly standing.

Cobra Mon Jan 17, 2011 02:02am

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 717069)
What difference would that make? The rule says she must remain seated.

I've kinda suspected it from your past posts but you just proved you don't know the difference between your azz and your arm.

Did I say it made a difference? I was directly responding to a question which was asked. I even quoted it in my post....figure it out man.

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 716866)
How can she get up and still be in contact with the bench? :confused:



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