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[constable]

Originally Posted by chseagle

What I am meaning is that we have not been directed to do a :15 horn before the game or 3rd quarter, only between the 1st/2nd & 3rd/4th quarters here.

What do you think halftime is? I'd say it is an intermission.

It appears you've read most of the rule book, but why not go to a camp and learn to referee and apply the rules.

[chseagle]

Right now my knee is wrecked thanks to last January.

As I stated before, the WIAA has not stated that a warning horn is to be sounded at :15 prior to end of pregame/halftime.

Originally Posted by constable

What do you think halftime is? I'd say it is an intermission.

It appears you've read most of the rule book, but why not go to a camp and learn to referee and apply the rules.

[chseagle]

The WIAA has not stated that a warning horn sound :15 prior to game or 3rd quarter.

As I stated earlier, I will discuss this with local reps to see what local interp is.

Originally Posted by zm1283

It's in the rule book though, and you supposedly follow the rule book to the letter, so you had better get with it and sound that horn at the :15 mark during halftime.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by chseagle

Right now my knee is wrecked thanks to last January.

As I stated before, the WIAA has not stated that a warning horn is to be sounded at :15 prior to end of pregame/halftime.

It doesn't apply to pre-game, only to intermissions.

They don't have to state it -- it's in the book. If they don't want you to use it, they have to state "don't sound the warning horn ..."

And, please place your comments below the post you are quoting, not above it.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

It doesn't apply to pre-game, only to intermissions.

They don't have to state it -- it's in the book. If they don't want you to use it, they have to state "don't sound the warning horn ..."

And, please place your comments below the post you are quoting, not above it.

Bob,

Ironic thing is I've never even been told by the officials to do it. As I have stated before the officials have the final say.

The sounding of the warning horn :15 before end of halftime was not done even at Regionals.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by chseagle

Bob,

Ironic thing is I've never even been told by the officials to do it. As I have stated before the officials have the final say.

The sounding of the warning horn :15 before end of halftime was not done even at Regionals.

I bet that if you do it, no official will say to not do it either.

[refiator]

I am hearing a lot of folks who will allow the clock operator to change the number of fouls on the scoreboard before the foul is actually reported. This is a bad habit. You must speak to the timer to correct this, otherwise you are setting yourself or your partner up into an embarrassing correctable error. Remember....Preventive Officiating!

[deecee]

Originally Posted by refiator

I am hearing a lot of folks who will allow the clock operator to change the number of fouls on the scoreboard before the foul is actually reported. This is a bad habit. You must speak to the timer to correct this, otherwise you are setting yourself or your partner up into an embarrassing correctable error. Remember....Preventive Officiating!

what error are we setting ourselves up to? what shows on the scoreboard has no real relevance to the game. thats why we have a scorebook. the only book i need to be on is the one with my scorer, and they always know to tell me when we hit 6.

[constable]

Originally Posted by refiator

I am hearing a lot of folks who will allow the clock operator to change the number of fouls on the scoreboard before the foul is actually reported. This is a bad habit. You must speak to the timer to correct this, otherwise you are setting yourself or your partner up into an embarrassing correctable error. Remember....Preventive Officiating!

Preventative officiating is key but when I am reporting the foul I have much better things to pay attention to then looking to see whether or not the timer has put up a team foul before I've reported it.

[constable]

Also, what correctable error? I agree with the earlier post- the scoreboard for team fouls is just a reference, not the official record. The book is. They let us know on 6 and 9 and we communicate it amongst our partner or partners.

[chseagle]

deecee, in some situations the scoreboard can be of relevance depending on who is doing table operations. Would you trust an adult inputting information on the scoreboard over a child doing scorebook?

Originally Posted by deecee

what error are we setting ourselves up to? what shows on the scoreboard has no real relevance to the game. thats why we have a scorebook. the only book i need to be on is the one with my scorer, and they always know to tell me when we hit 6.

[chseagle]

I just sent an e-mail to both the WIAA Executive over basketball & the WOA Executive Director asking what the state's interpretation of the rule is.

I'll run a test Tuesday night as I have games that night, just to see what happens.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by chseagle

Would you trust an adult inputting information on the scoreboard over a child doing scorebook?

NFHS rule 2-11-11 says we are supposed to trust the child doing scorebook for anything that is entered into the scorebook, including fouls, bonus free throws, etc. The scorebook is official. We trust the adult doing the scoreboard for timing purposes ONLY. That only thing that is official on the scoreboard is the time remaining.

Been that way forever under the rules.....

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by refiator

I am hearing a lot of folks who will allow the clock operator to change the number of fouls on the scoreboard before the foul is actually reported. This is a bad habit. You must speak to the timer to correct this, otherwise you are setting yourself or your partner up into an embarrassing correctable error. Remember....Preventive Officiating!

How does this set you up for a CE?

If there are 6 fouls, and you call another -- when you look, there will be 7, and you'll shoot the 1-1.

NOT putting the fouls up, could set you up for the CE -- if the 6 stays up there for too long (and the book doesn't tell you it was the 7th), you might administer a throw-in instead of shooting FTs

[Rich]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

How does this set you up for a CE?

If there are 6 fouls, and you call another -- when you look, there will be 7, and you'll shoot the 1-1.

NOT putting the fouls up, could set you up for the CE -- if the 6 stays up there for too long (and the book doesn't tell you it was the 7th), you might administer a throw-in instead of shooting FTs

I sorta see the point. We had one of these timers last week. As I'm reporting a foul, I see 6 on the board on my way to the table. Now, I *know* we didn't have six before the foul, because I didn't signal such to my partners (and we always do that). So I pointed to the endline where we were going to have a throw-in knowing that there was a very small chance we missed a foul somewhere and would be shooting. And then the PA announcer said it was the sixth team foul.

I'd prefer the book, timer, and PA announcer wait and give us the courtesy of reporting the foul first before recording anything. We don't always get that and I'm not going to make a big deal out of it if we don't....