Endline vs. Baseline

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap

Of course, there is the center line, er, division line.

Good one. Very subtle. My nomination for "Post O' The Week".

[so cal lurker]

Hmm . . . does anyone know how "base line" crept into the game? Anyone who's played knows the phrase, but it hardly seems an obvious expression to jump into the game.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by so cal lurker

Hmm . . . does anyone know how "base line" crept into the game? Anyone who's played knows the phrase, but it hardly seems an obvious expression to jump into the game.

Anyone who's played has heard a coach use the term.

[CMHCoachNRef]

Originally Posted by VaTerp

As a coach we always used baseline. As an official, the correct term is endline but I often hear both used.

In the end, it doesn't really matter since the meaning is the exact same and I have never heard any confusion/complaints as a result of the use of either.

This is absolutely true. As a player, and later as a coach, the end lines have always been referred to as the baseline. I am fairly confident that MTD is correct in that the origin came from the fact that the rectangular court has a "base" line at its bottom.

As a defender, we never wanted to give the offensive player the "baseline" (i.e. get beat to the basket along the end line). Yet, you cannot find the term "baseline" in the Rules Book.

As has been pointed out, these two terms are synonyms. When talking to fellow officials, using the term "end line" is best. When talking to coaches or players, using the term "base line" is most understood.

Some officials are very particular that we, as officials, use the proper term and it is up to the coaches to figure out the rules book (by reading it). Personally, I have far too many things about which I am concerned to be worried about this particular debate.

[chseagle]

The 3 zones of hockey: Offensive Zone, Neutral Zone, & Defensive Zone.

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Good one. Very subtle. My nomination for "Post O' The Week".

[Judtech]

Originally Posted by chseagle

So you speak both basketball & beisbol?

I do speak BaseKetBall!

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by Eastshire

Unfortunately, you were taught wrong. Baseball fields have foul lines and runners can establish their base path but there are no baselines in baseball.

Which is just as stupid since they're actually "fairlines."

[bainsey]

I recently looked up both of these in NCAA, NBA, and FIBA rulebooks online.

The NBA rules uses both "baseline" and "endline." I could only find "endline" in NCAA and FIBA rules. Of course, NFHS just uses "endline."

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by bainsey

of course, nfhs just uses "endline."

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[Adam]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

1-7-3

Beat me to it.

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by chseagle

The 3 zones of hockey: Offensive Zone, Neutral Zone, & Defensive Zone.

C'mon eagle...how do you know that? Do they teach that in Basketball Scorer/Timer clinics?

...which got me to thinking...I wonder if Hockey officials ever have double or triple whistles? Do all the Hockey Officials even have whistles?

I have been part of two "triple whistles" this year...more than all of last year.

I stated that changing a charge call to a block is ugly...well, I guess triple whistles are right up there with that. Ugly and embarrassing.

...another off-topic thought...remember that dude that was a crazy ski jumper some years back? Wasn't his name Eagle or something like that?

...any relation chseagle?

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

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We're not talking about backboard markings here.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by bainsey

We're not talking about backboard markings here.

Nope, but his point was the term is actually used in NFHS.

[chseagle]

I know about hockey due to previously working with the Tri-City Americans.

Yes the linesmen & the referee(s) all have whistles in hockey though only one whistle is normally heard.

Come on, RookieDude you should know how I got my name is due to the school name & mascot.

My actual last name has some hockey lineage in it, no basketball & no ski jumping.

Originally Posted by RookieDude

C'mon eagle...how do you know that? Do they teach that in Basketball Scorer/Timer clinics?

...which got me to thinking...I wonder if Hockey officials ever have double or triple whistles? Do all the Hockey Officials even have whistles?

I have been part of two "triple whistles" this year...more than all of last year.

I stated that changing a charge call to a block is ugly...well, I guess triple whistles are right up there with that. Ugly and embarrassing.

...another off-topic thought...remember that dude that was a crazy ski jumper some years back? Wasn't his name Eagle or something like that?

...any relation chseagle?

[HawkeyeCubP]

I use endline without exception any more when talking to both partners, players, and coaches. But I also say "Score the goal" while signaling the same to the table.