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chseagle Wed Jan 05, 2011 04:14am

Endline vs. Baseline
 
Thanks to my watching College Hoops, I've been hearing almost every commentator call the endline the "baseline".

By which name should it be universally known by?

Which do you prefer & why?

When I hear the term "baseline" I am thinking that baseball is being played :eek:

Back In The Saddle Wed Jan 05, 2011 05:05am

I'm bilingual. I'm good with calling it either.

grunewar Wed Jan 05, 2011 05:07am

I'm an endline kind of guy as that's what I've been taught and that's what our books and manuals say. I was "corrected" for the misuse of the other term several yrs back and have now become a proponent for using the correct terminology - which IMO is very important for officials.

I was taught "there are only baselines on the baseball field, not on the basketball court."

That being said, we've had this discussion before, as officials, we have much bigger fish to fry than this......

chseagle Wed Jan 05, 2011 05:08am

So you speak both basketball & beisbol?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle (Post 712038)
I'm bilingual. I'm good with calling it either.


chseagle Wed Jan 05, 2011 05:12am

I was curious cause of the so-called "all knowing" commentators using improper terminology (according to the books/manuals).

Quote:

Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 712039)
I'm an endline kind of guy as that's what I've been taught and that's what our books and manuals say. I was "corrected" for the misuse of the other term several yrs back and have now become a proponent for using the correct terminology - which IMO is very important for officials.

I was taught "there are only baselines on the baseball field, not on the basketball court."

That being said, we've had this discussion before, as officials, we have much bigger fish to fry than this......


Camron Rust Wed Jan 05, 2011 05:29am

Baseline may not be the precise word as is used in the rulebook but there is no need to worry about which word to use in this case....it is completely unlike other unofficial words such as "over-the-back" or "reaching". Neither baseline nor endline convey any different meaning relative to the other; they are precise synonyms of each other. EVERYONE knows exactly what you're talking about no matter which one you use.

Merriam-Webster dictionary (and several others) also define it to mean the ends of the basketball court.

Also, one of the sides of a rectangle is properly called the "base". The basketball court is a rectangle.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Wed Jan 05, 2011 03:03pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 712042)
Merriam-Webster dictionary (and several others) also define it to mean the ends of the basketball court.

Also, one of the sides of a rectangle is properly called the "base".

And the base of a rectangle is dependent upon which side is the base. :p

MTD, Sr.

Eastshire Wed Jan 05, 2011 03:37pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 712039)
I was taught "there are only baselines on the baseball field, not on the basketball court."

Unfortunately, you were taught wrong. Baseball fields have foul lines and runners can establish their base path but there are no baselines in baseball.

VaTerp Wed Jan 05, 2011 04:19pm

Realy doesnt matter
 
As a coach we always used baseline. As an official, the correct term is endline but I often hear both used.

In the end, it doesn't really matter since the meaning is the exact same and I have never heard any confusion/complaints as a result of the use of either.

Adam Wed Jan 05, 2011 04:20pm

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Originally Posted by Eastshire (Post 712293)
Unfortunately, you were taught wrong. Baseball fields have foul lines and runners can establish their base path but there are no baselines in baseball.

To add to that, there are "baselines" on the basketball court.

Welpe Wed Jan 05, 2011 04:35pm

End Line is proper but you probably won't hear it much outside of officials talking to one another. I tend to use baseline when communicating with players and coaches.

I don't expect much in terms of rules knowledge when it comes to common-taters.

RobbyinTN Wed Jan 05, 2011 04:37pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 712322)
End Line is proper but you probably won't hear it much outside of officials talking to one another. I tend to use baseline when communicating with players and coaches.

I don't expect much in terms of rules knowledge when it comes to common-taters.


Same here. After a timeout I might say something like "White ball on endline" and the players stare at me like "where is that?":eek: I find myself using baseline more than endline

Clark Kent Wed Jan 05, 2011 04:58pm

Baseline on the offensive end. End line on the defensive end of the floor. Sideline along the sides ;)

BillyMac Wed Jan 05, 2011 05:06pm

Rosetta Stone ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Clark Kent (Post 712332)
Baseline on the offensive end. End line on the defensive end of the floor. Sideline along the sides.

Sounds good in English, but not in Officialese.

26 Year Gap Wed Jan 05, 2011 05:19pm

Of course, there is the center line,er, division line....


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