OK - what do you do here?

Mark Padgett · #1 (**permalink**) Tue Jan 04, 2011, 06:02pm

Two person mechanics, FED rules. A1 shooting the second of two free throws. You are trail. The ball hits the rim and bounces away staying on the court but your partner, at lead, blows his whistle and gives the "swerlie" mechanic with his hand and says the thrower violated by the ball not hitting the rim. You tell him you had a clear view of the shot and it definitely hit the rim. He says OK.

Do you go to the AP or use POI? If you think you should use POI, then what would it be?

APG · #2 (**permalink**) Tue Jan 04, 2011, 06:12pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

Two person mechanics, FED rules. A1 shooting the second of two free throws. You are trail. The ball hits the rim and bounces away staying on the court but your partner, at lead, blows his whistle and gives the "swerlie" mechanic with his hand and says the thrower violated by the ball not hitting the rim. You tell him you had a clear view of the shot and it definitely hit the rim. He says OK.

Do you go to the AP or use POI? If you think you should use POI, then what would it be?

You'd go to the point of interruption which in this case happens to be the AP.

Welpe · #3 (**permalink**) Tue Jan 04, 2011, 06:19pm

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Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

You'd go to the point of interruption which in this case happens to be the AP.

Agree.

Adam · #4 (**permalink**) Tue Jan 04, 2011, 06:24pm

POI, which is a beer after the game supplied by your partner for making this call from lead.

Mark Padgett · #5 (**permalink**) Tue Jan 04, 2011, 07:28pm

This actually happened twice in my game last night, with it happening to each team once. At least he was calling it both ways.

ref3808 · #6 (**permalink**) Tue Jan 04, 2011, 08:00pm

This is actually one of my pet peeves. Trail has flight of the ball. If lead is watching the ball then no one's watching his lane positions for violations or fouls.

I worked 4 games on Saturday with a guy who did this all day. And, they were youth games which meant it happened a lot. I mentioned the proper coverage to him, and it was like talking to a wall.

Freddy · #7 (**permalink**) Tue Jan 04, 2011, 08:09pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

. . . and gives the "swerlie" mechanic with his hand and says the thrower violated by the ball not hitting the rim.

Ditto. POI which, because no team control existed at the whistle, would be AP.

BTW, I can't find that "swerlie" mechanic in the back of the book. Can't figure out why.

BillyMac · #8 (**permalink**) Tue Jan 04, 2011, 08:29pm

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Originally Posted by Freddy

I can't find that "swerlie" mechanic in the back of the book.

Freddy · #9 (**permalink**) Tue Jan 04, 2011, 08:54pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac

Which is where that contrived mechanic belongs!

Now, if only that ridiculous "on the floor!" signal could suffer the same demise.

APG · #10 (**permalink**) Tue Jan 04, 2011, 09:10pm

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Originally Posted by Freddy

Ditto. POI which, because no team control existed at the whistle, would be AP.

It's AP because there was no team control and there was no infraction, goal, end of quarter/period involved. There are situations where the whistle is blown with no team control and the POI would not be the arrow.