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Old Sat Jan 01, 2011, 08:01am
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While I'm not going into the game looking for trouble (seriously, I'm not).....
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For about 10 minutes after I got the message, I practiced my "YOU'RE OUTTA HERE" mechanic.
so quickly?
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Old Sat Jan 01, 2011, 10:46am
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It seems to me that this "coach" should be handled by the league and his behavior should be addressed before your game. This is more of an administrative issue......
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Old Sat Jan 01, 2011, 11:54am
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It seems to me that this "coach" should be handled by the league and his behavior should be addressed before your game. This is more of an administrative issue......
He is part of the "administration", he has been on the board for years.

For many years I was the Chairman of the "disciplinary" committee for our local "select/travel" soccer league. There were many times I was asked to modify my schedule to referee a game when there had been a complaint about the behavior of an adult affiliated with a team in the league. It never failed to amaze me how stupid some people act when in positions of "leadership".
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Old Sat Jan 01, 2011, 12:00pm
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Then either address the treatment of players as your "administrative team" or put up with it. All you are doing is hurting the kids if you allow it to go on...just my opinion as it should not be an 'officials' job....
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Old Sat Jan 01, 2011, 12:22pm
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Then either address the treatment of players as your "administrative team" or put up with it. All you are doing is hurting the kids if you allow it to go on...just my opinion as it should not be an 'officials' job....
They're sending an official is serves on the board of directors to work the game so he can observe the behavior first hand. If he breaks game rules, the "official" will address it. If he breaks league rules, the "board member" will address it with the board after the game. What more do you want?

Wait a minute...it doesn't matter what you want. It's none of your business.
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Old Sat Jan 01, 2011, 12:34pm
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Then either address the treatment of players as your "administrative team" or put up with it. All you are doing is hurting the kids if you allow it to go on...just my opinion as it should not be an 'officials' job....
There are many times in life when the same person can "wear multiple hats". "Just putting up with" bad behavior is never an option when accepting responsibility for a youth league.

In our case our organization was all volunteers. It was much more convenient for me as a referee to be assigned to a game where we needed to get first hand knowledge of a complaint situation, than to get one of the other committee members to arrange to show up to observe only. We also had to deal with the situation of people being unwilling to "officially" report "problem" situations. Our bylaws did not allow us to take disciplinary action based on "anonymous" information. People would complain but would not be willing to sign a written complaint. We were left with having to have a board member witness the inappropriate behavior to be able to take corrective action. We had it in our bylaws that participants and spectators were under the authority of the referee crew. We expected the referee crew to help preserve a "sporting" atmosphere of all games hosted by any team in our league.
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Old Sat Jan 01, 2011, 12:41pm
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so quickly?
One's a joke and one's not. You guess which one is which.
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Old Sat Jan 01, 2011, 02:09pm
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I am looking at a similar situation in our local rec league, which starts Monday.
We have a guy returning after being absent a couple of years. You know the guy. The most ignorant, yet most vocal, all in the same package. In his last stint as coach, he came to the officials after the game to tell them "You guys need to watch the game closer." No kidding. It is a new season. The slate is clean. Perhaps we are all older and wiser. But when you go into the neighborhood with the biting dog, one cannot be blamed for carrying a stick.
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Old Sat Jan 01, 2011, 02:17pm
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We have a guy returning after being absent a couple of years. You know the guy.
It's a shame our leagues don't get enough "volunteers" where we can tell "these guys," uh, thank you but no.

We do have one rec league where I put the hammer down to a coach many yrs ago who has mellowed with age.....and it's nice!
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Old Sat Jan 01, 2011, 03:00pm
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I am looking at a similar situation in our local rec league, which starts Monday.
We have a guy returning after being absent a couple of years. You know the guy. The most ignorant, yet most vocal, all in the same package. In his last stint as coach, he came to the officials after the game to tell them "You guys need to watch the game closer." No kidding. It is a new season. The slate is clean. Perhaps we are all older and wiser. But when you go into the neighborhood with the biting dog, one cannot be blamed for carrying a stick.
Give him a T for "illegal use of mouth without brain".
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